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Johnny
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Post subject: What's A Brunswick BR60? Posted: Apr Tue 17, 2012 8:49 pm |
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Joined: Mar Wed 04, 2009 5:15 am Posts: 2440 Location: Lafayette, Oregon
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I had a lady call me and ask me if I wanted to look at a radio for her. I looked at it and it's definitely mid 20's or earlier. It has a record player on the R/H side of the cabinet under a lid that lifts up and on the L/H side of the top is another lid that lifts up but there's nothing there. I could see down inside and there's no room for any type of electronics. Something from the mid 20's would probably be too large for the amount of room I saw inside the cabinet.
I also noticed a heavy cardboard cone that went from the back of the cabinet to the front of the cabinet and at the front it was flush behind a piece of grille cloth.
I'm wondering if this was an early (or late) music box. I found some links to BR60 but they were UTUBE links and when I got there it was being called a Brunswick Radiola A318 or something like that. It wasn't this BR60. On the record player side there's a round brass plate that says "Brunswick BR60" right on it.
Anyone know what this might be?
Thanks, Johnny
_________________ "It's Nice To Be Nice To The Nice"
Major Frank Burns, MASH 4077th
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glasdave
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Post subject: Re: What's A Brunswick BR60? Posted: Apr Tue 17, 2012 8:56 pm |
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kb4yrc
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Post subject: Re: What's A Brunswick BR60? Posted: Apr Tue 17, 2012 9:31 pm |
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At least it was not a BR 549 ! ..... Gregg
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vitanola
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Post subject: Re: What's A Brunswick BR60? Posted: Apr Tue 17, 2012 9:32 pm |
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Joined: Apr Tue 03, 2007 1:31 am Posts: 3416 Location: Jonesville, MI
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A 1924-1925 combination, usually fitted with a specially arranged Radiola Super-Hetrodyne under the left-hand lid.
Many cabinets for this model were never completed, and were fitted out as all-electric Panatrope phonographs. some of these cabinets had been drilled for the crank hole, and so that was where the on-off switch was placed. A number of tse machies were apparently sold with blank panels in the place of the Radiola. If your blank panel is a perfect match for the cabinet, then ou may own one of these machines. otherwise, you may have a machine which has lost its radio. The Radiola chassis which was used in these sets was only a out three inches deep, with the UV-199's laying on their sides, prone to filament-grid shorts due to the effects of gravity on the fragile tungsten filament. By the next model year RCA was insisting that their filamentary tubes be used in only the vertical position.
_________________ "Gentlemen, you have come sixty days too late. The Depression is over" Herbert Hoover, June 6, 1930
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Nortonics
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Post subject: Re: What's A Brunswick BR60? Posted: Apr Tue 17, 2012 10:25 pm |
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kb4yrc wrote: At least it was not a BR 549 ! ..... Gregg Nice car! 
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Johnny
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Post subject: Re: What's A Brunswick BR60? Posted: Apr Wed 18, 2012 4:14 pm |
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Joined: Mar Wed 04, 2009 5:15 am Posts: 2440 Location: Lafayette, Oregon
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Dave, vit, Thanks for the information. To the others... Johnny
_________________ "It's Nice To Be Nice To The Nice"
Major Frank Burns, MASH 4077th
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vitanola
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Post subject: Re: What's A Brunswick BR60? Posted: Apr Wed 18, 2012 6:35 pm |
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Joined: Apr Tue 03, 2007 1:31 am Posts: 3416 Location: Jonesville, MI
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By the way, I believe that the BR-60 combination in the YouTube video mentione has passed through my hands.
I purchased it for a nominal sum years ago at a Stanton's auction.
It was working and complete with a Gary Schneider power supply , a repaired catacomb, andh a good set of tubes (5 UV-199's, a UX-120 and the Na-Ald adaptor fo the '20 as supplied by Brunswick).
The machine was in really beautiful condition save for a missing strecher. I serviced the motor and the Ultona reproducer and used it in a bedroom for a few years until I found another Brunswick combination, a BR-260. Same radio and talking machine, but a more elaborate "Wall type" cabinet. I then Pulled the tubes and power supply from the BR-60 and traded it away to a local antique dealer for a couple of those pink Lanmbert cylinders. The machine was in such lovely cosmetic condition that he was able to sell it very quickly, despite the missing strecher.
_________________ "Gentlemen, you have come sixty days too late. The Depression is over" Herbert Hoover, June 6, 1930
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vitanola
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Post subject: Re: What's A Brunswick BR60? Posted: Apr Thu 19, 2012 1:31 am |
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Joined: Apr Tue 03, 2007 1:31 am Posts: 3416 Location: Jonesville, MI
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_________________ "Gentlemen, you have come sixty days too late. The Depression is over" Herbert Hoover, June 6, 1930
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Johnny
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Post subject: Re: What's A Brunswick BR60? Posted: Apr Thu 19, 2012 2:47 pm |
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Joined: Mar Wed 04, 2009 5:15 am Posts: 2440 Location: Lafayette, Oregon
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Yep Vit ! That's it. This one's missing the complete radio section an the L/H side of the cabinet. And overall It's in pretty bad condition. Least I know what it is now.
Thanks Vit, Johnny
_________________ "It's Nice To Be Nice To The Nice"
Major Frank Burns, MASH 4077th
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Jim Koehler
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Post subject: Re: What's A Brunswick BR60? Posted: Apr Thu 19, 2012 5:54 pm |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 6306 Location: Freeport, LI, New York 11520
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No way similiar to what I have, but it's on the same side of the fence.....
I have a Victor 215-S with a Freed-Eisemann "plate radio" installed on it left hand side of the phonograph cabinet. Model 215 I believe. This set was probably manufactured late 1924-5 and is unique to the Victor 215.
It's a bit unusual because it's not really what the phonograph collector wants or the radio collector wants either. These collectors occupy even a smaller slice of the pie.
Nice combo though. I like what you have there also.
...Jim
_________________ "Resistance may be futile but capacitance has potential"
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vitanola
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Post subject: Re: What's A Brunswick BR60? Posted: Apr Sat 21, 2012 3:50 pm |
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Joined: Apr Tue 03, 2007 1:31 am Posts: 3416 Location: Jonesville, MI
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Actually these sets were used in the entire series of "Radio Adaptable Victrolas", which included the VV-S-215, the VV-S-400, VV-S-405 and VV-S-410. There sere a few VV-S-210 machines produced, but this little machine did not have room for the usual large radio panel, and was generally fitted with smaller sets such as the little Ware reflex also used in the Sonora sets.
The radio adaptable sets had several special radios made for use with them. The scarce Radiola IX was used, though it was also slender enough that it could be mounted upside-down inside of the lid of a conventional upright Victrola. Federal, Fada, Workrite, and Ware also made these flat panel sets. The Federal sets (model 210) as I recall) turn up pretty frequently, generally thrown into home-made table model cabinets and sold as "Rare Federal Radio". It appears that the connection between Victor and Federal was longstanding. The radios used in the Victor VV-R-80 of 1922 and 1933 are Federal products. I had a the opportunity to examine a second series R-80 receiver and it is quite definitely a Federal product.
_________________ "Gentlemen, you have come sixty days too late. The Depression is over" Herbert Hoover, June 6, 1930
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