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 Post subject: The 1939-40 Silvertone 6409 dial lamp/lens?
PostPosted: Dec Sun 03, 2017 8:34 pm 
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I just purchased a circa 1939 Silvertone 6409. It doesn't have a dial lens and in my research I cannot absolutely confirm that it ever had one one. Does anyone know for sure? Also I see it has a dial lamp, but it really does not seem to be illuminating the dial face much. I see light under the pushbuttons and around the sides of the dial face more than anything. Should the dial be lit-up more than that?
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 Post subject: Re: The 1939-40 Silvertone 6409 dial lamp/lens?
PostPosted: Dec Sun 03, 2017 8:50 pm 
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I found this info: http://www.radiophile.com/silv6407.htm
which led me to this: http://www.radiophile.com/silv6405.htm


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 Post subject: Re: The 1939-40 Silvertone 6409 dial lamp/lens?
PostPosted: Dec Sun 03, 2017 8:58 pm 
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mgrant wrote:

Thank you very much. For a moment I thought something was wrong with the dial lamp position on my set. It's true that the dial face completely blocks the dial lamp! I honestly think it was designed to light the pushbutton station I.D. inserts as the dial face is a very bright white like on a many farm sets.
That just leaves the question of a dial lens. It seems the majority of pics on the Net show no lens, but I see one or two where there seems to be one. I have feeling those owners put one in themselves, but I'm not 100% sure.


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 Post subject: Re: The 1939-40 Silvertone 6409 dial lamp/lens?
PostPosted: Dec Mon 04, 2017 12:34 am 
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It's seems another ARF member was a curious about this dial many years ago:
http://antiqueradios.com/forums/viewtop ... w=previous
PS - I'm still finding most examples on the Net without a clear dial cover. I'm thinking it never had one. Anyone know for sure?
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 Post subject: Re: The 1939-40 Silvertone 6409 dial lamp/lens?
PostPosted: Dec Mon 04, 2017 5:30 am 
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Just for future reference on this thread I want to mention that a member at VK helped solve the mystery. There is a notch on the inside of the cabinet for a dial lens. It's just a very small strip that must clear the pushbuttons for chassis installation. The dial does glow softly only in a nearly dark room. I took another pic of my set that shows a little refelction where I installed the dial cover. I like it better this way.


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 Post subject: Re: The 1939-40 Silvertone 6409 dial lamp/lens?
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It makes sense that it had a cover. You gotta keep the little rug rats from messing up the dial pointer. Whatever "plastic" cover they must have used probably discolored and warped over the years and was pulled off and discarded.


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 Post subject: Re: The 1939-40 Silvertone 6409 dial lamp/lens?
PostPosted: Dec Mon 04, 2017 9:30 pm 
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almost for sure had a clear lens over the dial. Mark at www.dialcover.com might have it listed, or will make one from your measures.
Mark Oppat


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 Post subject: Re: The 1939-40 Silvertone 6409 dial lamp/lens?
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oldradioparts wrote:
almost for sure had a clear lens over the dial. Mark at http://www.dialcover.com might have it listed, or will make one from your measures.
Mark Oppat

Thank you for the replies. Another memeber PM'd me and mentioned that the three he has all do not have a dial covers. Being the bottem edge just floats free above the pushbuttons, I having my doubts it ever had a lens.


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 Post subject: Re: The 1939-40 Silvertone 6409 dial lamp/lens?
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I think I may be able to help out here. I have a Silvertone 6409A, and when I received it, it still contained half of it's dial glass. And it is glass, not plastic. The good end of the glass has a notch cut in it to match the recessed area inside the cabinet. There is also a 1/8 inch strip of white paint along the bottom edge. It appears that with the "A" version, they corrected the lighting problem by adding a light hole in the dial. See photos below:


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 Post subject: Re: The 1939-40 Silvertone 6409 dial lamp/lens?
PostPosted: Dec Tue 05, 2017 11:06 am 
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Radiodial wrote:
I think I may be able to help out here. I have a Silvertone 6409A, and when I received it, it still contained half of it's dial glass. And it is glass, not plastic. The good end of the glass has a notch cut in it to match the recessed area inside the cabinet. There is also a 1/8 inch strip of white paint along the bottom edge. It appears that with the "A" version, they corrected the lighting problem by adding a light hole in the dial. See photos below:

Thank you! That really proves it did have a dial cover and wraps up this thread. I see the cover went way down to the top edge of the pushbuttons. I would bet many got damaged in the removal/installation of the chassis.
The little hole in the dial was a pretty poor fix on these, but for $9.95 it was still a great little night-table radio!


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