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 Post subject: Going to buy radio tomorrow PLEASE HELP!
PostPosted: Mar Fri 02, 2018 11:06 pm 
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Hello all, there is a young lady in my area that is selling a bunch of old radios. She says, "some work and some do not" so I'm assuming all have been plugged in which I hear can be pretty unfortunate. I am restoring a television and many of you suggested I start with a radio so here is my opportunity. I am adding photos of everything she has for sale.

I need to know which one/s to purchase. I am looking for valuable and ease of restoring. Also, if you know, tell me about what I should be spending. I haven't the slightest idea what the value of these are. I apologize that the photos are poor. Please help me decide. I know NOTHING about radios (yet).


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 Post subject: Re: Going to buy radio tomorrow PLEASE HELP!
PostPosted: Mar Fri 02, 2018 11:08 pm 
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one more photo here.


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 Post subject: Re: Going to buy radio tomorrow PLEASE HELP!
PostPosted: Mar Fri 02, 2018 11:15 pm 
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That's easy--buy them all. If you know anything at all about the prices, you'll get the better deal this way.

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Seriously....that's not possible. We don't know what you like, where you have your "cheap filter" set, and many other factors.

I can make arguements for 2 approaches:
1. buy a throwaway radio to cut your teeth on. (In that last picture, I think I see some throwaways....)

2. buy something that really speaks to you---for whatever reason.

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 Post subject: Re: Going to buy radio tomorrow PLEASE HELP!
PostPosted: Mar Fri 02, 2018 11:27 pm 
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Hi,

In your first photo there is a white Philco Hippo AM radio that is sitting on its end. It is the lower left hand radio in the first picture. I recently bought one at an estate sale that worked, but looked rather rough for $15.00. That would be a good starter radio and is quite collectable. Also, just to let you know, Philco put the model year in the first two digits of the model number. I've got one Philco Hippo from 1946 and another from 1949.

Good luck, Tom

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 Post subject: Re: Going to buy radio tomorrow PLEASE HELP!
PostPosted: Mar Fri 02, 2018 11:35 pm 
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Thank you both! I would love to buy them all. I don't have any idea what I like either. I know what looks good so that might be my way of choosing. So I will try to buy an older 50's model I can cut teeth on and something that I would like to restore and put in my parlor. If she isn't asking much, I will buy all of them. Keep the advice coming. I would like to consider everyones opinion that has one.


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 Post subject: Re: Going to buy radio tomorrow PLEASE HELP!
PostPosted: Mar Fri 02, 2018 11:43 pm 
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Pic #1, the one on the top left appears to be an AM/FM unit with a larger speaker, so it would be good, but a bit complex to work on.
I'd take the Bakelite radio below that one because of its hippo looks. I'd check out the other Bakelite radios, some of which are painted white. They have minimal value, but are fun to fix. Check for tubes missing.

The Admiral with the airplane dial is boring but looks complete, fun to restore. It does have a couplate in it, or at least the one I have does. A couplate is a series of resistors and caps molded into one unit. If that is ok, you can work around it.

Bottom pic, the middle clock radio is a classic, but a knob is missing off the clock. It has the Telechron clock motor which can be taken apart and repaired. Don't know about the newer models there. Maybe the late 1950's are coming back into style?

The small wooden radios are fun if you like refinishing or want practice. If you find one with a power transformer, buy it.

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 Post subject: Re: Going to buy radio tomorrow PLEASE HELP!
PostPosted: Mar Fri 02, 2018 11:48 pm 
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The second photo is a 1931-32 Philco 112H in a cabinet designed by industrial designer Norman Bel Geddes
It is one of Philco's best radio at the time. A hot performer!

However, I wouldn't suggest it as a first time restoration.
If its something you like, then perhaps you could get it for a later time when you have more experience.

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 Post subject: Re: Going to buy radio tomorrow PLEASE HELP!
PostPosted: Mar Sat 03, 2018 12:08 am 
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pick only one.
[ ]Valuable
[ ]easy to restore

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 Post subject: Re: Going to buy radio tomorrow PLEASE HELP!
PostPosted: Mar Sat 03, 2018 12:46 am 
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I have the GE Bakelite version of the first pic, great little radio and that would be my choice.


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 Post subject: Re: Going to buy radio tomorrow PLEASE HELP!
PostPosted: Mar Sat 03, 2018 1:24 am 
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I like that wooden radio in the first picture. I myself would lean towards the wood ones if they are in good condx. The Hippo in that picture is also desireable. Even though it is bakelite. Some of those radios, the clock radios, etc. just don't speak to me. The console is a future project if you have room for it. Some of the pictures are too dark and I just cannot judge them. There might be a gem in that group but sorry. At least get the Hippo and the first wood radio IF it looks as good, in person. Unless you are into wood case restorations . That wood one is a GE, and looks like it might have a tuning eye tube, a cool factor and added value. As a beginner, I would avoid clock radios unless the clock runs well and silently, and radio phono combos. You don't need weird mechanical issues at first. This is all dependent on her prices. Like if the nice smaller ones can be had under 30$.


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 Post subject: Re: Going to buy radio tomorrow PLEASE HELP!
PostPosted: Mar Sat 03, 2018 1:30 am 
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I am definitely into restoring wood. Hyperlapse of my 1953 Admiral Television I am cutting teeth on a radio in order to restore the television soon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA9gdhQ80ug


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 Post subject: Re: Going to buy radio tomorrow PLEASE HELP!
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Don't assume you don't have to work on "those that work." Bad capacitors and other parts will require you to "go through them" carefully. Plan to work on each & EVERY set you buy. Better to be safe than sorry.


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 Post subject: Re: Going to buy radio tomorrow PLEASE HELP!
PostPosted: Mar Sat 03, 2018 2:16 am 
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Yes sir. In fact I told her not to attempt to turn any of them on. Unless they have been restored, I assume they are all "broken".


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 Post subject: Re: Going to buy radio tomorrow PLEASE HELP!
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I agree with the others who said the General Electric with the blue dial in the top right of the first picture, or the Philco Hippo in the lower left of the first picture. My choice would be the GE, never have been a fan of the Hippo's styling.

Also that large rounded-square dial radio on the top of the 5th picture is a looker.

I say stay away from the large wooden AM/FM in the top left of the first picture. It's an RCA 68R3, somewhat historic for being one of the earliest AM/FM radios on the market with the modern FM band after the end of WWII in late '45. But it also tends to be plagued with silver mica disease, which results in weird problems that are hard for a beginner to fix.

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If you are a beginner, I would suggest starting on a simple AM only set. Avoid FM sets and ones with record players; you want something that you can fix without excessive investment of time. Wood or plastic is your choice. If you plan to keep it, value is unimportant; pick one you like. You likely won't make a profit selling old radios except in a few special cases (maybe not even then).

If you can look at them, see if they have a tube chart on the bottom or inside a console cabinet. One with 5 or 6 tubes is what you are looking for.

And of course, if you buy several, you can save the more complex sets for when you have a better idea of what you are doing.

And, as others have said, plan on working on it before you can use it safely whether it "works" or not.

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 Post subject: Re: Going to buy radio tomorrow PLEASE HELP!
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And note that nearly all of the radios in the photos are quite common and of very little interest to experienced collectors. I point that out, because if your situation changes and you ever needed to resell the sets, you might have a very difficult time getting back what you paid for them and what it takes to make them work properly. That said, the Philco hippo is probably the most desirable set in the lot, most of the others you wouldn't want to pay more than $10 apiece for just to learn on.

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 Post subject: Re: Going to buy radio tomorrow PLEASE HELP!
PostPosted: Mar Sat 03, 2018 2:45 am 
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Thank you. I think 10 dollars is a fair price for the sets. What would you all give for the large wooden philco? That's the one that appeals to me the most. I'll probably try to get the hippopotamus and maybe one other plus the large wooden philco.


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 Post subject: Re: Going to buy radio tomorrow PLEASE HELP!
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Which large wooden Philco are you talking about?

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PostPosted: Mar Sat 03, 2018 2:53 am 
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the Philco 112h


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 Post subject: Re: Going to buy radio tomorrow PLEASE HELP!
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Just a couple more suggestions. In the last photo, there is an RCA , on the upper left, could be 5 or 6 tubes, and might have a shortwave band!

They are great sets, and easy to work on!

Then in the 4th photo, on the left hand side there is an airline set, with a tuning eye, Unless the case is really badly

broken, I would grab it. These are good looking sets, though not beginner level! If complete and clean I would pay a

bit more the 10.00 for it!

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