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 Post subject: "Certainly not perfect" RCA 621TS TV
PostPosted: Jan Tue 03, 2017 1:53 am 
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/RCA-621TS-Telev ... SwZQRYaG92
.....now that is quite an understatement!
There should be a law against doing something like that to any antique. The guy just slapped wood-putty all over the cabinet with a trawl. I wouldn't even know where to begin to try to fix it, not to mention recreating/replacing the aftermarket rounded-out mask. One brass tab is missing as well as the original back, and the speaker is shot. The knobs are actually painted ones for the blonde model and would be a shame to strip them down.
Considering nice, complete examples have been selling in the $500-$1000 area, I would put the value of this one at $200-$300 tops only because it has it's working rare CRT. It may even sit for a while at that price.


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 Post subject: Re: "Certainly not perfect" RCA 621TS TV
PostPosted: Jan Tue 03, 2017 5:58 pm 
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decojoe67 wrote:
not to mention recreating/replacing the aftermarket rounded-out mask.
Looks like he had to use that mask to fit the round oil-filled magnifier in there.

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 Post subject: Re: "Certainly not perfect" RCA 621TS TV
PostPosted: Jan Tue 03, 2017 8:03 pm 
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Pretty sure the cabinet is/was Walnut or Mahogany, the knobs and mask are from a blonde set.
Cabinet will need a complete re-veneering.

A good project if you could get it at a better price, otherwise you might as well spend the extra bucks and buy a nice one like this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Antique-19 ... rmvSB=true


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 Post subject: Re: "Certainly not perfect" RCA 621TS TV
PostPosted: Jan Tue 03, 2017 9:28 pm 
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And yet there is a real nice 730tv1 on ebay for $100 with original manual. I simply don't get the pricing on the 621...too many show up...they are not as rare as the hobby allows us to think. I had 2 back in the day..and I do not collect TV's...


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 Post subject: Re: "Certainly not perfect" RCA 621TS TV
PostPosted: Jan Wed 04, 2017 12:29 am 
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Size and visual appeal help. The 730tv1 is a big beast compared to the 621. Also the historical significance as the 621 is one of the first post-war sets.


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 Post subject: Re: "Certainly not perfect" RCA 621TS TV
PostPosted: Jan Wed 04, 2017 1:01 am 
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And yet there is a real nice 730tv1 on ebay for $100 with original manual. I simply don't get the pricing on the 621...too many show up...they are not as rare as the hobby allows us to think. I had 2 back in the day..and I do not collect TV's...

I agree that eBay has made it seem as though they're not as rare as once thought, yet one can say the same for Sparton "Bluebirds"/ "Sleds", Zenith "Stratosphere"/"Walton" models, rare Scotts, AK's, and the like. None the less these sets, including 621TS, are relatively rare pieces. As many as I've seen on eBay, I would still say that between 100-200 existing examples is a fair number, and that is not a whole lot. A good, complete, working model should warrant a value of $1,000-$1,200 considering this, it's historical significance, and the classic John Vassos art-deco lines. Not to mention being a great performer to boot!


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 Post subject: Re: "Certainly not perfect" RCA 621TS TV
PostPosted: Jan Wed 04, 2017 1:25 am 
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I certainly know the reasons why... but I think they are overvalued. Just my opinion based on the quantity that appear. My reference to the 730tv1 was not to compare desireabilty... but merely the ridiculous difference in value, when both sets are within a year of each other, and as many 730tv1's appear as 621's... Maybe I'm not writing my point well enough..sorry. I just see a lot of 621's despite the numbers that you say are out there. I mean, this beat up relic of one for about 1000 is nuts. Just my thinking. Beast or no beast, I'll take 5 730tv1's and 5 641TS's for 100 apiece (same year, similar rarity) before shelling out 1000 on a 621 that another will on ebay again next week.


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 Post subject: Re: "Certainly not perfect" RCA 621TS TV
PostPosted: Jan Wed 04, 2017 1:32 am 
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That is one pretty rough looking TV I have seen far better ones go for less. Definitely restorable But at what cost.


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 Post subject: Re: "Certainly not perfect" RCA 621TS TV
PostPosted: Jan Wed 04, 2017 1:40 am 
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reno219 wrote:
I certainly know the reasons why... but I think they are overvalued. Just my opinion based on the quantity that appear. My reference to the 730tv1 was not to compare desireabilty... but merely the ridiculous difference in value, when both sets are within a year of each other, and as many 730tv1's appear as 621's... Maybe I'm not writing my point well enough..sorry. I just see a lot of 621's despite the numbers that you say are out there. I mean, this beat up relic of one for about 1000 is nuts. Just my thinking. Beast or no beast, I'll take 5 730tv1's and 5 641TS's for 100 apiece (same year, similar rarity) before shelling out 1000 on a 621 that another will on ebay again next week.

It's all a matter of taste to what a buyer is willing to pay for a piece despite it's rarity/desirability. In my personal opinion, as beautiful a set they are, I'm sick at the sight of Zenith "Walton" models! They turn-up constantly and consistently garner many thousands of dollars. It's a set that I would want to pay maybe $500 for, but you can bet my opinion is not going to sway a single seller! :D
PS - I so agree that this set is about as bad as I've ever seen one and the value is a small percentage of what a good, complete example is worth. The sellers price is for a primo example.


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 Post subject: Re: "Certainly not perfect" RCA 621TS TV
PostPosted: Jan Wed 04, 2017 1:47 am 
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So true Joe... It seems that once a set is declared "the one"...it always will be. If a hoarder suddenly put 100 621ts' up for sale, somehow, the price would still be high. Same with those Walton sets. Repro cabinets and guys in Russia selling the router tool to make the front of them?? wow..out of control


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 Post subject: Re: "Certainly not perfect" RCA 621TS TV
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Those sets are still pretty hard to find - I doubt there are more than 100 out there. One or two on ebay every 6 months does not make it common.


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 Post subject: Re: "Certainly not perfect" RCA 621TS TV
PostPosted: Jan Wed 11, 2017 5:11 am 
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decojoe67 wrote:
There should be a law against doing something like that to any antique.

Most times, when somebody says "There should be a law against that!", there shouldn't.


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 Post subject: Re: "Certainly not perfect" RCA 621TS TV
PostPosted: Jan Thu 12, 2017 3:49 am 
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clueless wrote:
decojoe67 wrote:
There should be a law against doing something like that to any antique.

Most times, when somebody says "There should be a law against that!", there shouldn't.

Figure of speech :)


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 Post subject: Re: "Certainly not perfect" RCA 621TS TV
PostPosted: Jan Thu 12, 2017 7:49 am 
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It's down to $699 BIN, possibly low enough for someone who really wants one bad enough to deal with it's flaws.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RCA-621TS-Telev ... SwZQRYaG92


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 Post subject: Re: "Certainly not perfect" RCA 621TS TV
PostPosted: Jan Fri 13, 2017 2:07 am 
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Eric H wrote:
It's down to $699 BIN, possibly low enough for someone who really wants one bad enough to deal with it's flaws.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RCA-621TS-Telev ... SwZQRYaG92

Until he drops to about $250 with it, it's unlikely the seller is going to get any interest. You're basically buying an okay chassis and CRT. The cabinet needs a serious restoration by a skilled professional with a complete strip-down, re-veneering, and mask reconstruction. It's a dolled-up basket-case under all that wood-putty.


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