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 Post subject: 1920's antique speaker amplifier
PostPosted: Aug Thu 02, 2012 12:58 pm 
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I have four 1920's cone speakers and a decent supply of various tv tubes so I thought to build a small amplifier to drive those speakers. My plan is to use capacitor coupling between the stages. I am thinking of possibily driving this amp with the detector output of my AK-40 radio. I'll post a list of the tubes I have when I get home today.


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 Post subject: Re: 1920's antique speaker amplifier
PostPosted: Aug Tue 07, 2012 11:39 am 
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Have yet to list the tubes I have. Will hopefully do it today.


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 Post subject: Re: 1920's antique speaker amplifier
PostPosted: Sep Wed 12, 2012 12:23 am 
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Whats wrong with using the 40's output stage?


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 Post subject: Re: 1920's antique speaker amplifier
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Catch is, that you cannot use a very high power TV tube with those. The old hi Z speakers are probably somewhat limited as to current and voltage in series with the plate of a tube. You could maybe get a transformer that is a hi Z coupling trans or a capacitor for coupling to at least keep the DC out of it. But I still bet the audio power handling is not all that great in those things. Or max audio output capability. At least you could keep too much bass out of it with selected values of coupling caps and the antique 20s coupling trans apparently do not couple deep bass very well. Fry the froghair coil open, then kiss it goodby. Or you could do what some have done. Get a horn with a dead or missing driver, install a small 8 Ohm speaker inside, and then you can drive it with modern radios.


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 Post subject: Re: 1920's antique speaker amplifier
PostPosted: Sep Wed 26, 2012 4:16 am 
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Catch is, that you cannot use a very high power TV tube with those. The old hi Z speakers are probably somewhat limited as to current and voltage in series with the plate of a tube. You could maybe get a transformer that is a hi Z coupling trans or a capacitor for coupling to at least keep the DC out of it. But I still bet the audio power handling is not all that great in those things. Or max audio output capability. At least you could keep too much bass out of it with selected values of coupling caps and the antique 20s coupling trans apparently do not couple deep bass very well. Fry the froghair coil open, then kiss it goodby. Or you could do what some have done. Get a horn with a dead or missing driver, install a small 8 Ohm speaker inside, and then you can drive it with modern radios.


I planned on using the choke + capacitor speaker coupling that was so common on 1920's radios.

I was given this schematic from a fellow forum member and plan on building it soon. I have a single Peerless A7 reproducer and given it has at least the frequency response of decent computer speakers I thought about finding another then building two of these circuits. I would then have a very interesting pair of computer speakers :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: 1920's antique speaker amplifier
PostPosted: Sep Wed 26, 2012 4:43 am 
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That wasn't the 'latest'. If you remember the 20EZ7 cascode was changed to 'self bias' with a 1 Meg grid to cathode and a .1 uF on the grid to ground. And then we simplified the bottom with a single Rk, which also altered R12 & C9. Look for your copy of "45B5 Cascode SRPP v7 large.jpg" (I.E. version 7). Don't get me wrong, the earlier versions will work too. It's just that v7 is a little more elegant and saves a couple of parts.


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 Post subject: Re: 1920's antique speaker amplifier
PostPosted: Sep Wed 26, 2012 5:12 am 
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Oh ok just grabbed that one for a quick post ;)

Will you send that one again? I seemed to have lost it.


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 Post subject: Re: 1920's antique speaker amplifier
PostPosted: Sep Wed 26, 2012 5:48 am 
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Done. I just resent the original email.


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 Post subject: Re: 1920's antique speaker amplifier
PostPosted: Sep Wed 26, 2012 5:58 am 
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Thanks.


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