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akent36
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Post subject: Anybody Know Who Made This "Scott" Receiver? Posted: Jan Sun 27, 2013 4:17 pm |
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rmyauck
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Post subject: Re: Anybody Know Who Made This "Scott" Receiver? Posted: Jan Sun 27, 2013 4:52 pm |
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Sure has small OPT's ! One of the probably 6BM8 Driver/ Output Tubes (If I've read right ) looks like it's broken so that explains the small OPT's as it wouldn't have a lot of power.
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Dave Doughty
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Post subject: Re: Anybody Know Who Made This "Scott" Receiver? Posted: Jan Sun 27, 2013 4:57 pm |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 13635 Location: Utica, NY 13502 (USA)
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It was probably made for the Scott (formerly E.H. Scott, not H.H. Scott) "Custom" series of consoles. I'm not sure who actually manufactured the receiver. Attachment:
Scott Custom.JPG [ 26.42 KiB | Viewed 723 times ]
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ggregg
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Post subject: Re: Anybody Know Who Made This "Scott" Receiver? Posted: Jan Sun 27, 2013 7:10 pm |
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Can't remember the manufacturer of the last of the EH Scott stuff (or I think Scott Radio Labs), but if that's what this is, it's very near the end of the line.
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Tom Bavis
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Post subject: Re: Anybody Know Who Made This "Scott" Receiver? Posted: Jan Mon 28, 2013 1:53 am |
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Doesn't look Japanese... maybe Bogen? They did at least one receiver for Allied. Transformer numbers would be the best way to tell.
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johnS.
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Post subject: Re: Anybody Know Who Made This "Scott" Receiver? Posted: Feb Fri 01, 2013 9:05 pm |
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Harman Kardon used smallish output transformers in some of their equipment back then, too. I couldn't imagine them making anything for a company named "Scott", though! To me, it doesn't look like a product that was made in Japan.
_________________ -John S. In Memory Of: Curt Reed, and also Bill ("oldradiospook"). We miss you guys!
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BigBandsMan
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Post subject: Re: Anybody Know Who Made This "Scott" Receiver? Posted: Feb Fri 01, 2013 9:32 pm |
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I thought of Harman-Kardon on first sight too, but not because of the pint-sized OPT's. That peculiar tint of the front panel made me think of HK. I have an early-sixties HK tuner with a front panel tinted exactly like this one. I couldn't see HK making gear for a company named H.H. Scott. But "Scott Radio Laboratories" was not a major player in the high-fidelity market by the late 1950's, and probably was not even a credible second-tier player. I could see HK contracting to build gear for them. I doubt they stood to lose as much from SRL's competition as they stood to gain by building their gear under contract. I suspect the owners of the E.H. Scott tradename were simply trading on its reputation as much as they could, and as long as they could, which wasn't long, thanks to H.H.'s lawsuit forbidding them the use of the "Scott" name.  Larry
_________________ It don't make a go if it ain't got that GLOW!
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akent36
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Post subject: Re: Anybody Know Who Made This "Scott" Receiver? Posted: Feb Fri 01, 2013 10:33 pm |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 763 Location: Rockford IL USA
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I found pics of Bell, Paco, Bogen, Grommes and a couple other US made receivers of that same vintage but no similarities. It's not something I was going to buy, but just curious who made stuff for "Scott" toward the end--and the distinctive way the output tubes and transformers are lined up made me think someone would recognize it.
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BigBandsMan
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Post subject: Re: Anybody Know Who Made This "Scott" Receiver? Posted: Feb Fri 01, 2013 11:01 pm |
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Someone may recognize it yet...
I'll stick with my Harman-Kardon guess, but it's only a guess. Instinct.
Larry
_________________ It don't make a go if it ain't got that GLOW!
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Dave Doughty
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Post subject: Re: Anybody Know Who Made This "Scott" Receiver? Posted: Feb Sat 02, 2013 4:06 am |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 13635 Location: Utica, NY 13502 (USA)
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Didn't HK build stuff for Radio Shack as well?
Dave
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akent36
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Post subject: Re: Anybody Know Who Made This "Scott" Receiver? Posted: Feb Sat 02, 2013 11:41 am |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 763 Location: Rockford IL USA
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Cannot find any Harmon Kardon chassis pix of the era, but I did have a mono receiver several years ago from 1958 or so, and the appearance was very conventional--from the front panel to the chassis.
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Dave Doughty
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Post subject: Re: Anybody Know Who Made This "Scott" Receiver? Posted: Feb Sat 02, 2013 1:56 pm |
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Here's a picture of a Harmon Kardon receiver chassis I found on the web. Those puny output transformers and the power transformer look very similar to those in the Scott. Even the FM tuner sub-chassis looks similar. Attachment:
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Scott Custom(1).jpg [ 29.84 KiB | Viewed 528 times ]
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BigBandsMan
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Post subject: Re: Anybody Know Who Made This "Scott" Receiver? Posted: Feb Sat 02, 2013 2:16 pm |
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That front-panel tint looks identical to me, not to speak of the OPT's and tuner assembly. Very light "brushed gold," almost too light (frankly, it looks washed out, compared to Fisher's "brushed gold" and others). I'd bet money now that the Scott was an HK build.  Larry
_________________ It don't make a go if it ain't got that GLOW!
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MAG
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Post subject: Re: Anybody Know Who Made This "Scott" Receiver? Posted: Feb Sun 03, 2013 12:58 am |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 1732 Location: Lakewood, California
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Here’s another HK to compare output transformers with the Scott. This is a HK “Trio” integrated amp model A-224 that has seen better days. Output tubes are EL-84, output transformer numbers are FT2362704. Service information is in Sams 436-7. It is another “One of these days” projects; maybe will make a small basic amp with the components.
I have the matching “Duet” T-224 Stereo tuner, sadly in the same condition as the amp.
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akent36
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Post subject: Re: Anybody Know Who Made This "Scott" Receiver? Posted: Mar Sun 03, 2013 5:37 pm |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 763 Location: Rockford IL USA
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After extensive study of Allied and Radio Shack catalogs on line, my conclusion is that this is a Madison-Fielding product.
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Post subject: Re: Anybody Know Who Made This "Scott" Receiver? Posted: Mar Sun 03, 2013 7:48 pm |
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I seriously doubt that was a Madison-Fielding product. From what I have seen of Len Feldman's products, they used much more serious output transformers. While Scott "Custom" (and their successor Ravenswood) are known to have outsourced some of their products, they also built their own. This might well be one of those. Scott "Custom" and Ravenswood were trade names used by Annapolis Electroacoustic, Inc. They had purchased the E. H. Scott name but were taken to court by H. H. Scott and forced to change their name to Ravenswood in 1961. At best, they were E. H. Scott in name only and ultimately didn't even have a good claim on that. Check out this old post on the Audio Banter forum (ignore the date which is probably a typo for 1959): http://www.audiobanter.com/showpost.php ... ostcount=1
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Post subject: Re: Anybody Know Who Made This "Scott" Receiver? Posted: Mar Mon 04, 2013 12:37 am |
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A lot of folks are guessing HK, and it is possible. But the fact is, I've seen transformers like that on a lot of different brands, and very few audio companies did their own transformers anyway. So those would have been easily available to any OEM. Same is true of the front end. Many companies just bought those front end modules complete and stuffed them into the chassis.
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akent36
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Post subject: Re: Anybody Know Who Made This "Scott" Receiver? Posted: Mar Mon 04, 2013 2:31 am |
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I found pix of some Madison-Fielding receivers that had the same dial where the eye tube was in between the AM and FM bands on the slide rule. Only the front panel was shown, so I don't know what the chassis looked like.
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Dave Doughty
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Post subject: Re: Anybody Know Who Made This "Scott" Receiver? Posted: Mar Mon 04, 2013 2:58 am |
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Can you supply a link to what you found?
I agree that those transformers could be supplied to any OEM who ordered a quantity made specific to their design or standard, off-the-shelf units.
Dave
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akent36
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Post subject: Re: Anybody Know Who Made This "Scott" Receiver? Posted: Mar Mon 04, 2013 3:14 am |
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