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 Post subject: Please Help ID Ambassador Console
PostPosted: Jan Mon 02, 2017 2:13 pm 
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It came without the back and I assume that is where the model number was.

I am not much of a console guy but this one really sounds nice.

Rectifier 6CA4
Power amp a single 6EU7 into a pair of 6BQ5s

can anyone identify the model and year?

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 Post subject: Re: Please Help ID Ambassador Console
PostPosted: Jan Mon 02, 2017 3:45 pm 
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EIA code on trannys and parts should get the date close. Probably early '60's.


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 Post subject: Re: Please Help ID Ambassador Console
PostPosted: Jan Mon 02, 2017 6:32 pm 
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Thanks for the reply, that is definitely the same tuner chassis with a slightly different changer and cabinet. I checked around at the Fisher console models and none have the same tube layout (at least that I can find)

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 Post subject: Re: Please Help ID Ambassador Console
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This is not a Fisher, though they had an Ambassador model. Ambassador has quite a few listings in Sams - I'd look through my files if a had a date - too many otherwise.


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 Post subject: Re: Please Help ID Ambassador Console
PostPosted: Jan Tue 03, 2017 4:01 am 
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these are all of the numbers I can read clearly on it:

output transformers: 1222 9496308
Power transformer: 1116 9496308

turntable 286940 PN 288, shipping 8576339 B1255 285

Speakers 465-3-36 4x-9

tuner chassis #9064 Audio Industries

googling this has has not turned up much info. I am guessing from the numbers on the transformers and the TT they were manufactured in 1963, the number on the tuner chassis might indicate 1964. The style of the cabinet is very similar to other companies offerings in these two years.

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 Post subject: Re: Please Help ID Ambassador Console
PostPosted: Jan Tue 03, 2017 5:56 am 
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Ambassador was an entry level brand sold through the Allied stores (nothing to do with Allied Radio), which was a merchandiser that sold things to small mom and pop retail stores across the country. Typically these kinds of products were built by the lowest bidder, which means that companies like Olympic, AMC, or others at the bottom of the ladder could have been the manufacturer.

The Audio Industries tag on the tuner chassis would indicate they were the manufacturer of this console, since they built private brand sets as well as their own Ultratone brand sets, in Michigan City, Indiana and were still in business at the time this was built.

Yours looks better than many of the other Ambassador sets.

About the only way you are going to find a schematic for it is to go through the Sams Photofacts for the Ambassador brand, starting about the time the date codes on your set would indicate. You could also look at Ultratone, to see if there are any similar chassis shown in Sams. It may well be an orphan model for which no service data was ever released.

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 Post subject: Re: Please Help ID Ambassador Console
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The record changer is a Voice of Music.

Gary Stork at http://www.thevoiceofmusic.com/ will have the manual for the changer and most parts you might need.

All he needs is the model number which is the one starting with 857.


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 Post subject: Re: Please Help ID Ambassador Console
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Thank you for the info. I was looking at the Voice Of Music site and decoded the date on the changer to the second week of October 1963 so the console should be a late 63 or early 64 model.

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 Post subject: Re: Please Help ID Ambassador Console
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 Post subject: Re: Please Help ID Ambassador Console
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Sams index shows no model 9064 by ANYBODY in that tdate range. May sams folder run out in mid '63, so I can't help there... an few Ambassador models I looked up in the index said Ultratone on the folder.


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 Post subject: Re: Please Help ID Ambassador Console
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thanks, I think the 9064 is only a chassis number, it is on the small white tag on the end of the tuner chassis. all of the tubes have the remains of Ultratone on them, it wipes away real easy and takes the tube numbers with it :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Please Help ID Ambassador Console
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At the very least, you know for sure that Audio Industries was the manufacturer.

The amplifier/power supply chassis would be very easy to draw the schematic from by hand in just a few minutes. The tuner chassis would not be quite so easy, but doable if nothing similar turns up in Sams.

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 Post subject: Re: Please Help ID Ambassador Console
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Amp is fine, the tuner is what I need a schematic for and I do not have the time or patience to draw one from scratch.

After some digging, it appears I am looking for Sams 618-8, 619-6 or 623-5 all from 1963

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 Post subject: Re: Please Help ID Ambassador Console
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I think you hit it as close as you will find with the last one. Says Audio Industries chassis 13 and 9053M. There are some differences - amp has a lay-down transformer and the 6EU7 is on the tuner chassis, and the control arrangement looks different. I can scan the eight pages within a few days.


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 Post subject: Re: Please Help ID Ambassador Console
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Your Stereo looks like a Ambassador Model 2510, the one pictured on the first page of Sams 699, folder 6.

Tuner chassis 9064, with amp chassis 17 came in Ambassador models 2265, 2510, 2512, 2665, 2774, 2778, 2814, 8210, and 8212. Sams set 699-6 was published June 1964. This set also covers Models 3526, 3528 which came with a larger amp chassis (Ch18) and the same tuner 9064.

Unfortunately set 699 is still covered by patent so I cannot scan it for you. You may be able to find it elsewhere. I would be glad to answer any specific questions on the schematic.

According to Sams, the record changer is similar to VM 1255, covered in Sams set 646-10, which was published in 1963 and I believe not under patent.

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 Post subject: Re: Please Help ID Ambassador Console
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Thank you, I believe that is what I need.

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