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 Post subject: SOLVED: Crock Pot Part Dilemma
PostPosted: Dec Wed 14, 2016 3:14 am 
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I wasn't sure where to post this as ell as whether or not it was even appropriate for
ARF because it has nothing to do with radio and it is more or less a veiled want ad. But
I emailed Alan and he said it would be OK in the Clubhouse forum so I hope I am not tesing
anyone's patience by posting this.

My Mrs. has a favorite kitchen appliance, an old Rival Crock Pot. Last week the switch
disintegrated. I thought you could buy just about anything and everything on eBay or Amazon
but I was very wrong. I couldn't find a single switch. So I thought I'd look in thrift stores, buy an old crock pot and harvest its switch. Oddly...although I saw a bunch of them all summer long there is not
one in any of the 5 thrift stores I have checked.

My wife has a sentimental attachment to this old crock pot which is why I would like to try to
restore the original. If anyone has an old Rival crockpot laying in the garage and wouldn't mind
parting it out to sell me the switch I am interested.

The switch is a simple affair: 4 leads go in and the switch selects OFF-LOW-MEDIUM-HIGH
to select heating element combintions. The original switch is made of plastic, is 1 1/4-inch square,
3/8-inch thick and the shaft protrudes 1/2-inch above the metal frame that holds the front to the
rest of the switch with metal fingers crimped around the plastic.

If you have one I will buy it or if you know where such a part can be purchased I would
welcome your suggestion.


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 Post subject: Re: Crock Pot Part Dilemma
PostPosted: Dec Wed 14, 2016 3:35 am 
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What are the markings on the switch? If its an older crock it may be a known manufacturer and maybe even a part number but even those chances are slim. Unfortunately the only hits I found are some shady China websites, but the switch looks similar.

http://nova2.sell.everychina.com/p-9756 ... nders.html

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 Post subject: Re: Crock Pot Part Dilemma
PostPosted: Dec Wed 14, 2016 4:07 am 
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Boy oh boy, Flyboy71 you certainly did better in your resarch than I did in mine.
Thanks. Chinese or not I'd give it a try but it sort of looks like Nova is in the business
of selling bulk to manufacturers; plus the "30-45 day lead time" sort of blows my
wrapping it up and putting it under the tree. :)

But thanks for weighing it because it fits the description perfectly for what I need.


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 Post subject: Re: Crock Pot Part Dilemma
PostPosted: Dec Wed 14, 2016 5:00 am 
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A H/M/L switch for a lamp or fan should work. Try mom & pop hardware stores, before going to Home Depot or Lowes. I have the same crock pot, in fact had intended very soon to make a beef stew.
Push comes to shove, sign up for your local Freecycle and place a want ad for a pot.

https://www.freecycle.org/

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 Post subject: Re: Crock Pot Part Dilemma
PostPosted: Dec Wed 14, 2016 5:11 am 
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I actually may have that part....

I bought a Rival at a thrift shop just for the glass lid to replace my Mom's beloved Rival's lid...

Problem is, I'm not sure what hoarding pile it is stashed in....how soon do you need it?


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 Post subject: Re: Crock Pot Part Dilemma
PostPosted: Dec Wed 14, 2016 2:17 pm 
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If Dr Radio can't find the pot, I might suggest cruising the thrift shops for one. They often go for $1.00 here at estate auctions.

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 Post subject: Re: Crock Pot Part Dilemma
PostPosted: Dec Wed 14, 2016 2:49 pm 
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T'aint uncommon - they use those in space heaters, crock pots, fans, and some low-end blenders:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5PCS-Rotary-4-P ... 1796391037

Salvage the original housing to fit over the new switch so you have a bushing for mounting - 4 tabs, easy to do.

EDIT: In Colorado, and with the bushing:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Position-3-sp ... SwZQxW4OLY

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 Post subject: Re: Crock Pot Part Dilemma
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Thanks Chas and Findem-Keepem...fans never occured to me. You guys sure are better detectives
than I am because I spent a lot of time on eBay and Amazon and couldn't find anything; so Bravo to you.
I like the one with the metal front because the outer shell of the crock pot gets real hot but it comes from China and I am not sure I could get it by Christmas so, if I can't find another in a more timely manner it might be a
Valentine's present. ;)


Don, I thought the thrift shop idea would be an easy fix and have cruised five of them within 30 miles and
apparently crock pots are fast sellers now. All summer long it seemed they had tons of them and now that
I need one, nadda.

Dr. Radio, thank you for your possible proffer. Please let me know if you can find yours and, if so, PM me.

Thanks to all for taking the time to respond to this posting.


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 Post subject: Re: Crock Pot Part Dilemma
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Call McNichols Electric in Dearborn, they were always the main local service center for small appliances, and have come through many times with obsolete stuff.

I just passed a Rival Crock Pot on the curb on trash night about two weeks ago, but didn't stop to pick it up. Around here, they turn up quite often at garage sales and estate sales for a few dollars.

I agree that a switch from a 3-speed box fan might be a perfect replacement, provided the current rating is able to handle the load of the crock pot's heating element.

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 Post subject: Re: Crock Pot Part Dilemma
PostPosted: Dec Wed 14, 2016 4:22 pm 
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Location: The High Plains, but not drifting (79007).
If you don't find it locally, I'd suggest posting a photo of the whole machine, so that we know what it looks like.

Then, when one of us chances upon one in a thrift store or wherever, we can buy it, harvest the switch and mail it to you.


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 Post subject: Re: Crock Pot Part Dilemma
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Thanks Detrola and Clueless. Yes the current rating is something Ifear might be lower in some
fan versions. As for the photo of the original unit, here it is: (the outer graphics-in this case cow spots-
are often solid colors).


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 Post subject: Re: Crock Pot Part Dilemma
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There is also the option of finding a similar known working unit on Ebay.

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 Post subject: Re: Crock Pot Part Dilemma
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Can I have a close up of the markings? Looks from here like it could be a Leviton 804 or 806.

There are a few switching combinations, so we need to know what yours is.
The most common are OFF, L1, L2, L3 and OFF, L1, L2, L1+L2

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 Post subject: Re: Crock Pot Part Dilemma
PostPosted: Dec Thu 15, 2016 3:13 am 
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CWR56I am afraid I cannot get a very good photo of the markings as the engraving is not very
well defined. However with some magnification I can make out the following:

1/4 HP 120-240 VAC
3A -240 VAC
6A - 240 VAC
10 A -120 VAC (H)

On the reverse side of the switch it states:

Tower Manufacturing
6 A 120 VAC

19&41 Yes eBay occurred to me but I think with shipping it would end up being bodacious. But I
appreciate your giving it some thought as to altenatives for me.


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 Post subject: Re: Crock Pot Part Dilemma
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FWIW, a diode (1N5824) in series with the power cord works great for lowering the temperature in slow cookers.


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 Post subject: Re: Crock Pot Part Dilemma
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telegrapher wrote:
Thanks Detrola and Clueless. Yes the current rating is something Ifear might be lower in some
fan versions. As for the photo of the original unit, here it is: (the outer graphics-in this case cow spots-
are often solid colors).


Not to impede this Quixotic need to fix things, but you can get a new one about the same size for around $20-25. I know it rubs us the wrong way, but that's why you can't get repair parts.

Brett


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 Post subject: Re: Crock Pot Part Dilemma
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Brett_Buck wrote:
Not to impede this Quixotic need to fix things, but you can get a new one about the same size for around $20-25. I know it rubs us the wrong way, but that's why you can't get repair parts.

Brett


I am quite aware you can buy them anywhere.
"Man of La Mancha" notwithstanding, I am not in pursuit of this due to a need just to "fix" something. If it is
important to my wife it is important to me, so I'll fix it if I can.


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 Post subject: Re: Crock Pot Part Dilemma
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I was pretty sure I kept our old one for the heater to repurpose "someday." Or we had an extra one laying around. No dice, must've finally tossed it.

In the pic of your switch from the side, it's separated a bit. Is that because you were looking inside it or it came apart in disassembly or ? Anyway, internal contacts are often simple, and if merely displaced and not "slow-cooked" you might be able to repair the old switch while your search continues for a better one. Test it first with some water for a few hours to verify any repairs. Don't want a failed meal to be the first one after your "fix."

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 Post subject: Re: Crock Pot Part Dilemma
PostPosted: Dec Fri 16, 2016 4:11 pm 
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Ed, You've got a sharp eye! Yes the switch in my photo is separated. The plastic
crumbled and the metal front piece became loose so I pried the other tab to see
if it was repairable. Unfortunately one of the metal contacts inside has actual
disintegrated. Apparently it had been arcing a long time and was eaten-away; so
one of the internal contacts is missing.

I should be ablt to visit another thrift store early next week and maybe there will be
one I can salvage although I also am aware that any used switches may be as
worn out as this one was when it died. But maybe it will have a little time left,
enough so that my wife can use it while I wait for one from China.


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 Post subject: Re: Crock Pot Part Dilemma
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So I'm watching Seinfeld and what do I see. 8)


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