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 Post subject: De-icing with beet juice?
PostPosted: Jan Tue 23, 2018 1:28 am 
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Apparently so in Canada eh?

https://www.inverse.com/article/39632-b ... t-snow-ice

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 Post subject: Re: De-icing with beet juice?
PostPosted: Jan Tue 23, 2018 2:17 am 
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Never heard of it.

They been using some kind of clear liquid de-icer here for more than 10 years. Works well.

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 Post subject: Re: De-icing with beet juice?
PostPosted: Jan Tue 23, 2018 4:50 am 
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I just wish they'd use something that doesn't rot our vehicles to hell. :evil:


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 Post subject: Re: De-icing with beet juice?
PostPosted: Jan Tue 23, 2018 6:57 am 
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beat_truck wrote:
I just wish they'd use something that doesn't rot our vehicles to hell. :evil:


Amen! Connecticut started using the spray on calcium chloride pre treatment solution fifteen years or so ago, but they're too cheap to add the corrosion inhibitor to it, and it seems to be more of a car dissolver that happens to melt ice, too. Brake lines, underpinnings, bodies...

The D.O.T. spokesman's response to a newspaper reporter who questioned why the inhibitor wasn't being added was that it was too expensive, and that they simply washed the vehicles when they were done with them to remove the residue and reduce the damage. Too $$ to add the inhibitor and save EVERYBODY'S car, but they have truck washers on staff to keep THEIR stuff safe.

I have to wonder how much damage its doing to the metal bridge girders and rebar inside the concrete supports, and how many billions we'll be paying a few years down the road when that starts to fail...

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 Post subject: Re: De-icing with beet juice?
PostPosted: Jan Tue 23, 2018 7:07 am 
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Cubdriver wrote:
beat_truck wrote:
I just wish they'd use something that doesn't rot our vehicles to hell. :evil:


Amen! Connecticut started using the spray on calcium chloride pre treatment solution fifteen years or so ago, but they're too cheap to add the corrosion inhibitor to it, and it seems to be more of a car dissolver that happens to melt ice, too. Brake lines, underpinnings, bodies...

The D.O.T. spokesman's response to a newspaper reporter who questioned why the inhibitor wasn't being added was that it was too expensive, and that they simply washed the vehicles when they were done with them to remove the residue and reduce the damage. Too $$ to add the inhibitor and save EVERYBODY'S car, but they have truck washers on staff to keep THEIR stuff safe.

I have to wonder how much damage its doing to the metal bridge girders and rebar inside the concrete supports, and how many billions we'll be paying a few years down the road when that starts to fail...

-Pat

Agreed. They are BRUTAL with that crap here, especially on this mountain. :evil:

Unfortunately, you can wash the areas that you can reach all you want. You can't do much about what makes it's way in between the panels and does it's damage from the inside-out.


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 Post subject: Re: De-icing with beet juice?
PostPosted: Jan Tue 23, 2018 1:04 pm 
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Heres the original article I saw the beet juice thing. Canada isnt the only place that uses a lot of salt. I think PA has them beat.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/how ... everything

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 Post subject: Re: De-icing with beet juice?
PostPosted: Jan Tue 23, 2018 1:43 pm 
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They use it here.
The sugar in the beet juice lowers the freezing point of water more than just salt alone.
When its not quite as cold, salt alone will melt the ice on roads.

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 Post subject: Re: De-icing with beet juice?
PostPosted: Jan Tue 23, 2018 2:59 pm 
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A lot of farmers use beet juice in their tractor tires to increase weight thus traction - beet juice rather than water because of the very low freezing point.


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 Post subject: Re: De-icing with beet juice?
PostPosted: Jan Tue 23, 2018 3:12 pm 
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Never heard of this... I used calcium as a ballast in our loader and backhoe tires for years... a pain in the butt to pump out to fix a leak and a devil on the rims!!! Only redeeming thing was that you knew exactly where the leak was....

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 Post subject: Re: De-icing with beet juice?
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You can always spot the rotted rims on wheels filled with calcium chloride solution.
I think its is heavier than water on a per gallon basis too.
They spread that stuff on dusty roads as well to keep the dust down in the summer.

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