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 Post subject: 10k year clock - Why?
PostPosted: Mar Thu 08, 2018 9:36 am 
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But why I ask?

http://longnow.org/clock/

"Work has begun on Jeff Bezos' 10,000-year clock after the last 7 years spent drilling through solid rock to create it's chambers. Despite a budget of over $42 million for the project, the website still leaves a bit to be desired. " (fran Blanche)

http://www.10000yearclock.net/learnmore ... +272699400

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 Post subject: Re: 10k year clock - Why?
PostPosted: Mar Thu 08, 2018 11:31 am 
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Doubt the Earth will exist in 10,000 years or at least life on Earth.


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 Post subject: Re: 10k year clock - Why?
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Why?

"It's a special Clock, designed to be a symbol, an icon for long-term thinking. "


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Alan Voorhees wrote:
Why?

"It's a special Clock, designed to be a symbol, an icon for long-term thinking. "

Also known as blowing $42+ million.


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 Post subject: Re: 10k year clock - Why?
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But why I ask?



Why?.... Because as of March 6th he is the richest man in the world and will soon be the richest in history. He can pretty much do whatever he wants!

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 Post subject: Re: 10k year clock - Why?
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Just think what good this money could do if applied to worthy causes.

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 Post subject: Re: 10k year clock - Why?
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Joseph Newton wrote:
Alan Voorhees wrote:
Why?

"It's a special Clock, designed to be a symbol, an icon for long-term thinking. "

Also known as blowing $42+ million.


"My money and I'll spend it any way I want to" is what they would say and I agree.

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ricklin6 wrote:
Just think what good this money could do if applied to worthy causes.

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he will be employing a lot of people to make it, how is that not a worthy cause? It's certainly better than stashing it all in a bank somewhere

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ricklin6 wrote:
Just think what good this money could do if applied to worthy causes.

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Besides founding and running Amazon which provides jobs to over half a million people he has also invested money in dozens of other companies which in turn has created thousands of more jobs.

From Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos):


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Jeff Bezos supports his philanthropic efforts through direct donations, non-profit projects funded by Bezos Expeditions, and other charitable trusts. Through the Bezos Expeditions, he has funded the Bezos Center for Innovation at the Seattle Museum of History and Industry for $10 million and Bezos Center for Neural Circuit Dynamics at Princeton Neuroscience Institute for $15 million.[197][198] He personally donated $10 million in 2009 and $20 million in 2010 to the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center.[199] Bezos also donated $800,000 to Worldreader, founded by a former Amazon employee.[200]

In 2015, he funded the recovery of two Saturn V first-stage Rocketdyne F-1 engines from the floor of the Atlantic Ocean.[201] They were positively identified as belonging to the Apollo 11 mission's S-1C stage in July 2013.[202]

In January 2018, they announced a $33 million donation to TheDream.US, a college scholarship fund for undocumented immigrants brought to the United States when they were minors.[203]

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 Post subject: Re: 10k year clock - Why?
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Cause billionaires are apparently a different animal that millionaires. Having no concern about having anything you want and at the end of the day still having a billion dollar financial cushion must change you fundamentally, and maybe also allow your eccentricities to flourish.


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 Post subject: Re: 10k year clock - Why?
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I'm sure everyone has an opinion on how that money should be spent - but it is his money, so his opinion is the only one that matters.

As far as billionaire vanity projects go, I think the 10,000 year clock is better than most, and even way cool.

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 Post subject: Re: 10k year clock - Why?
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ricklin6 wrote:
Just think what good this money could do if applied to worthy causes.

It's being used to pay US workers and companies.

What would be a more "worthy cause"?

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At least it will give archeologists in the future something to ponder what the heck they were trying to build back then and how they did it. They will also wonder why there are fragments of what looked like some kind of vehicle orbiting the sun.

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Did you know the great pyramids of Egypt were built by workers paid partially with beer?

Of course, if you think about it, you'd have to be drunk to build something like that.

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 Post subject: Re: 10k year clock - Why?
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Pbpix wrote:
But why I ask?

I say, why not? Nice to be thinking in the very long-term, extremely optimistic. The Earth will still be around for a few billion years after it's built, after all. And in any case, I find it a bit of a pain in the ass to have to wind up our Seth Thomas mantel clock every eight days, so for this fancy clock to not have to be 'wound' for one hundred centuries is an added bonus, kinda like the Atmos clocks. Of course, I wouldn't want to think about the effort needed to wind the 'mainspring' once it runs down, not to mention the size of its winding key.......... :roll:
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 Post subject: Re: 10k year clock - Why?
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I don't know if mankind will be around, but certainly rats, roaches and bacteria will be. Maybe they will be advanced enough intellectually to appreciate it. :lol:

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Joseph Newton wrote:
Doubt the Earth will exist in 10,000 years or at least life on Earth.


The earth has existed for 4.6 billion years, with life for 3.8 billion+ years and likely at least 500,000 million more that we just can't find evidence of, through collisions with other planets (which made the earth much larger, and created the moon), pole-to-pole ice sheets, continents appearing and disappearing, and even in the last few tens of millions of years, sea level changes of hundreds of feet in either direction.

Assuming your premise is human mistakes as the cause, the most powerful systems we have ever had (nuclear weapons) are malfunctioning pop-guns compared to even small asteroid strikes (of which the earth has survived tens of thousands). If it's "global warming". we have had CO-2 level variations of nearly zero to >50%, and some of the same species, or closely related, have been present for the entire time.

Neither the Earth or life will be consequentially affected by any proposed mechanism before the sun starts turning into a red giant in maybe 6 or so billion more years. 10,000 years, and human civilization will likely exist in some recognizable form.

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Greetings to the Forum:

I am hereby posting an open offer to Jeff Bezos:

Send me that $42 million and I will agree to carry a dedicated cell phone 24 hours a day so that he can call me and I will tell him what time it is. :roll:

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.042 bn for the clock / 127.2 bn googles report of Bezos net worth.

That's like a guy making $25k blowing $8.25 on a cheap timex.

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