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 Post subject: Tomorrow I get to do this... B-17
PostPosted: Apr Sun 09, 2017 5:34 am 
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Tomorrow, if all goes according to plan, I get to do this as a present...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naH-_lv ... e=youtu.be

This will be the third flyable B-17 I have seen in person and the first I will have ridden in.

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 Post subject: Re: Tomorrow I get to do this... B-17
PostPosted: Apr Sun 09, 2017 6:04 am 
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Very cool.... have fun!

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 Post subject: Re: Tomorrow I get to do this... B-17
PostPosted: Apr Sun 09, 2017 10:55 am 
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Thanks for sharing.
Twelve 50 caliber machine guns were installed in the aircraft. What was the size of the total crew?

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 Post subject: Re: Tomorrow I get to do this... B-17
PostPosted: Apr Sun 09, 2017 1:37 pm 
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decoflair wrote:
What was the size of the total crew?
Prior to 07 June 1944 - Original Crews - 10 Crewmen

Officers:
    Pilot
    Co-Pilot
    Navigator / Flexible Gunner
    Bombardier / Flexible Gunner, Chin Turret Gunner (B-17G)


Enlisted Men:
    Flight Engineer / Top Turret Gunner
    Radio Operator / Flexible Gunner
    Ball Turret Gunner
    Left Waist Flexible Gunner
    Right Waist Flexible Gunner
    Tail Turret Gunner


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 Post subject: Re: Tomorrow I get to do this... B-17
PostPosted: Apr Sun 09, 2017 3:50 pm 
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These were very brave soldiers beyond belief.

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In a single 376 plane raid in August 1943, 60 B-17s were shot down. That was a 16 percent loss rate and meant 600 empty bunks in England . In 1942-43 it was statistically impossible for bomber crews to complete a 25-mission tour in Europe .


Source of statement: http://www.wwiifoundation.org/students/wwii-aircraft-facts/

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 Post subject: Re: Tomorrow I get to do this... B-17
PostPosted: Apr Mon 10, 2017 2:00 pm 
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Everything worked out and my two kids and I got to ride on B-17 Nine-O-Nine from the Marana, AZ airport around Picacho Peak and back to the airport. If/when I get the time I may be able to post a video on Youtube (my Windows Live Movie Maker is being obstinate at the moment with the MTS files).

The radio room was complete with BC-348 and a set of Command Receivers and Transmitters. I got pictures of all of that as well (may post pictures here later).

It was something to poke your head out of the top of the plane while flying after making sure you are holding your hat and glasses to avoid losing them in the wind.

We got to be in all positions during the flight except for Tail Gunner (blocked off). Being in the bombardier position was pretty amazing.

There was a crew of 3 on the flight and 10 passengers.

I was kind of amazed how few 500 pound bombs a B-17 actually held (looks like 6 was it for a set). I suppose there was room for another 6 behind the 1st set (that would make 12 or 6000 pounds). I am not sure about a 3rd set. This was a B-17G which is rated for 9600 pounds so I guess there must have been room for a 3rd set.

All in all a great day.

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 Post subject: Re: Tomorrow I get to do this... B-17
PostPosted: Apr Mon 10, 2017 9:09 pm 
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That looked fantastic Curtis. That would have been so much fun.Look forward to your you tube.
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 Post subject: Re: Tomorrow I get to do this... B-17
PostPosted: Apr Mon 10, 2017 10:07 pm 
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The B-17 does sometime seems to carry few bombs. There are tradeoffs in loading up a plane to it's maximum takeoff weight. Fuel, ammo, munitions, etc. Most B-17 war time missions in Europe were considered long range which meant a maximum fuel load. Most bombs for those missions were 500lb which limited how many they could take. Supposedly there were external racks available for the B-17 though I've never seen a picture of it. More bombs each of less weight. The B-24 could carry more, but it didn't have the same battle toughness. Brave men all of the crews. Each flight was many hours of risk regardless of the bomb load.


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 Post subject: Re: Tomorrow I get to do this... B-17
PostPosted: Apr Wed 12, 2017 4:26 am 
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Here is a video of the experience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6iGnskLKKE

Radios starting at about 16:35.

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