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 Post subject: How many of you still listen to new music?
PostPosted: Jul Wed 26, 2017 10:56 pm 
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Sort of a vague title I know but there's something I've been thinking about lately. As I've gotten older so too have many of my friends. I'm about to turn 40 and I've started to realize that some of my friends are seemingly falling inline with what I see with many other folks as they age: They latch on and in some cases almost halt their interest in new music, meaning they will listen mostly to stuff from their high school-college and early adult lives.

Its not like this is anything new. My Grandparents both listened mainly to big band, Sinatra, Lawrence Welk and so on. Increasingly what I find is that many baby boomers listen to a lot of Jefferson Starship, the Greatful Dead, Janis Joplin, etc.

There's nothing wrong with that. People should listen to what makes them happy. But I grew up in a household where we would always try and listen to something new. May parents still occasionally call me up about some new album they got. For me its always interesting to take a listen to something unfamiliar because over time one can find some real gems they previously didn't know existed. If anything I probably have vastly more diverse listening habits than I ever did in college.

So what is it? Why do so many people put on the brakes to their musical journeys? I have a few ideas but I assume a lot of it has to do with nostalgia. Music really connects people to time, place, era and so on. So naturally if one were to look back at their youth and do so with nostalgic feelings then what better way than play the music of that time?

Part of me feels a bit depressed that someone would in the end wind up listening to the same music over and over again for the remainder of their lives. But to each their own... As louis Armstrong once said if it sounds good then it IS good.


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PostPosted: Jul Wed 26, 2017 11:16 pm 
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I may be in a category by myself [but I doubt it].
I don't call a lot of the so called new music '' music''.
I still listen to the a lot of the same songs I listened to years ago. It is good music, had lyrics you could understand and made me feel good.
I like country music and I find that the so called country music of today just does not have much to it, and every singer sounds the same.
I sure can tell the difference between Ray Price, merle Haggard buck Owens, Webb pierce and every other artist singing the true country,
The lyrics of today don't do anything for me and they all sound the same.
There is no more rock and roll to make you feel good, like Buddy Holly, Roy Orbison
Elvis or the Big bopper.
What don McLean said in American pie ''The day the music died'' is true

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PostPosted: Jul Wed 26, 2017 11:23 pm 
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I'll give anything a try. New, old, any genre or style. 1920s to 2017.

I appreciate a wide range of music and styles.

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PostPosted: Jul Wed 26, 2017 11:35 pm 
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I'm over fifty and haven't stopped exploring for new music. Some folks claim to have an eclectic interest (but don't) while I really do. However I learned long ago that radio is not the place to grow and enhance my musical interests. Thank goodness we now have iTunes and Youtube. Not to mention other legal streaming sites. Musical journeys no longer restricted by what the record publishers and radio management give us access to. Those folks with some musical talent (or at least music in their hearts) can now can get their music heard without the struggle of getting recognized by the radio and recording industry. There is some I flat out won't listen to (current so called country music and rap). But there is so much more out there that this is no loss to me.


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Nostalgia Isn't What It Used To be!

2017 Jorja Smith - Teenage Fantasy
https://youtube.com/watch?v=oTnWe_sMznM

2017 Lorde - Green Light
https://youtube.com/watch?v=dMK_npDG12Q

2017 Zedd, Liam Payne - Get Low
https://youtube.com/watch?v=I67AwNlYfv0

2014 Iggy Azalea - Fancy (Explicit) ft. Charli XCX
Not safe for wife! Lol
https://youtube.com/watch?v=O-zpOMYRi0w

2015 Felix Jaehn - Ain’t Nobody (Loves Me Better) ft. Jasmine Thompson
https://youtube.com/watch?v=5j1RCys4R0g

2010 Lauryn Hill - Doo-Wop (That Thing) (Official Video)
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 Post subject: Re: How many of you still listen to new music?
PostPosted: Jul Thu 27, 2017 12:37 am 
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So what is it? Why do so many people put on the brakes to their musical journeys? I have a few ideas but I assume a lot of it has to do with nostalgia. Music really connects people to time, place, era and so on. So naturally if one were to look back at their youth and do so with nostalgic feelings then what better way than play the music of that time?

Part of me feels a bit depressed that someone would in the end wind up listening to the same music over and over again for the remainder of their lives. But to each their own... As louis Armstrong once said if it sounds good then it IS good.

I totally enjoy the music I grew up listening to, from the '40's to the '60's, and additionally there are tunes from the '70's and '80's I can groove to.

I would agree with the below post, that what's been produced since, just isn't appealing to me.

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I may be in a category by myself [but I doubt it].
I don't call a lot of the so called new music '' music''.
I still listen to the a lot of the same songs I listened to years ago. It is good music, had lyrics you could understand and made me feel good.
I like country music and I find that the so called country music of today just does not have much to it, and every singer sounds the same.
I sure can tell the difference between Ray Price, merle Haggard buck Owens, Webb pierce and every other artist singing the true country,
The lyrics of today don't do anything for me and they all sound the same.
There is no more rock and roll to make you feel good, like Buddy Holly, Roy Orbison
Elvis or the Big bopper.
What don McLean said in American pie ''The day the music died'' is true

Dan in Calgary

Here here! Hank Williams and Patsy Cline were simply a level above the other C&W singers of the day, most of whom were excellent themselves.

The C&W today just seems absolutely pale by comparison.

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 Post subject: Re: How many of you still listen to new music?
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SOme guys at work bring boomboxes and play those heavy fast songs where the guy sounds like he is growling or gargling. That genre appeared as a surprise to me and I have not started to even sort it out. And not to seem sexist as I have already mentioned the garglers, but a lot of female singers simply are not good singers either. At first I was put off by the screamers and ones with very limited ranges of so called singing. But don't think I like all old stuff. A lot of stuff from 30-40 years ago now sounds just stale to me now. Been playing around with estate sales vinyl for a bit and finding some real gems. Few weeks ago I got an old mono Julie London record in quiet condition. This inspired me to seek another famous album of hers on ebay. Well apparently others like her as that album in VG or better keeps going higher than my bids! Sometimes I do hear some music by contemporary performers and like it, and buy the CD if available. I am not doing any compressed download music at all. Going to over compressed digital is almost as bad as going back to cassettes, to me.


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 Post subject: Re: How many of you still listen to new music?
PostPosted: Jul Thu 27, 2017 1:02 am 
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Maybe I'm weird, but since 2010, I've been picking back up on the current pop music scene.

Perhaps its because of the long drive alone to work and back home listening to two local stations WMMX 107.7 and WCHD 99.9?

But yes, at least to me, I find a lot to like as well as some songs which even have an 80s flair to them.

My heart will always be in the SynthPop of the 80s, but there is still good stuff out there.

There are only a few Hip Hop or Rap tunes I like, but Country? I'm sorry no.... please no...

I have many song compilation CDs from this organization which I have been buying as they come out. I typically find 2 or 3 songs I like.

I would say in today's music, my favorite group is Maroon 5 :D

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 Post subject: Re: How many of you still listen to new music?
PostPosted: Jul Thu 27, 2017 1:28 am 
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Ditto here .You can count me out on any new current music.Most of today's artists use Autotune since they cant carry a note on key.I do like some of the instrumental /digital music parts of todays tunes though.Thank goodness for vocal removal software for that.I do enjoy from the 1900's up to the late 1980's tunes of any kind except hard rock. Rap,Hip Hop. I left the scene in the late 1980's when rap started to in filtering the mainstream charts.Ditto.Today's so called country music sucks .Jason Aldean and his co horts of the same type suck big time.I would be more happy if the Grand Ole Opry would close down around the same time that TNN the Nashville Network went off the air. Its a insult to country music to have these so called country artists on the same stage that the greats like Ernest Tubb once stand.I'll stick with Johnny Cash,Waylon Jennings,Eddie Rabbit ,Loretta Lynn and her sister Crystal Gayle and their generations up to the early 1990's artists and bands. I dont mind any new light easy listening tunes from any current artist that can sing.I do enjoy Adele's music. Also I do enjoy new music from classic artists and bands when they release them.

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 Post subject: Re: How many of you still listen to new music?
PostPosted: Jul Thu 27, 2017 1:36 am 
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I don't like the sound of a digital synth. Especially those synth percussion sounds drive me up a wall. Now the stuff I listened to when I was young 50s/60s sounds pretty dated, along with really low production quality. The women "screamers" like Adelle that gets played now over the PA in the local supermarket bigbox just about drives me out of the store. But back in the day we had Laura Niro, who was a screamer too. Sooooo, what DO I still like? Classical up to about 1930, jazz up to about 1970, a lot of Richard Thompson, some "power pop" like Cream, the Pixies, the Fastbacks ... some old timey like Bascom Lamar Lundsford, Bruce Molsky, and, sometimes, I prefer silence. Oh yeah, I can listen to the White Stripes, The Raconteurs and the Black Keys pretty easily. They're new but they sound old.


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 Post subject: Re: How many of you still listen to new music?
PostPosted: Jul Thu 27, 2017 1:47 am 
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The music I enjoy.... is any song with a good melody... understandable, meaningful lyrics.
Basically.. a tune I can remember enough to hum or whistle the next day.
A melody I know and sing the lyircs is a good one.

Most of today's poor excuse for music has very little of that.
How about RAP ... what is that? ... no melody there.

I grew up during the late 40s and 1950s of my teen years; the fantastic years of the beginning of rock/roll.

That music was new and controversial then but it is loved and memorable. And those were my teen years and music I loved.

But nowadays I actually love to listen more specifically to that fantastic music of the years of my parents... the 30s, and 40s and early 50s.
The big-band music, and the American song book and music like jazz too.
Ella Fitzgerald, Tony Bennett, etc

I also love to hear classic country tunes of the 50s to 80s
Merle Haggard, Ray Price, Patsy Cline, etc.

Very little music produced today has a catchy melody that I can hum or whistle the next day.

Lots of 'noise' ... that's it.

Show me any song today that can compete with the beauty of:

Stardust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjU6ZjrQulc

The very thought of you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rra2jh6ncBg

GREAT >> ** Someone to watch over me Emilie Claire Barlow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfXCYdM1vY0

GREAT >> ** Isn't it Romantic ( Tony Bennett)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48DRmVVk5N8

Cry me a river (julie London)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbwjQSBH0sE

How deep is the ocean ( Ben Webster sax)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmK5hvn4OVs

These foolish things ( Ella Fitzgerald)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLbgNvjyS4I

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 Post subject: Re: How many of you still listen to new music?
PostPosted: Jul Thu 27, 2017 1:48 am 
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Very cool question. I proudly listen to new music as well as old. Fitz And The Tantrums and Train are two newer groups that I like enough to actually go out and buy CDs from.

Here is my "Soundhound" history list (cell phone program that can identify any song playing on your radio):

Feel It Still - Portugal, The Man
Drink Up - Train
Slow Hands - Niall Horan
My Type - Saint Motel
Chained To The Rhythm - Katy Perry
Wish I Knew You - The Revivalists
Bright Lit Blue Skies - Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti
Such Great Heights - The Postal Service
Let Me Love You - DJ Snake
On Top Of The World - Imagine Dragons
I Get Lifted - Georges McCrae
Dear Future Husband - Meghan Trainor
Work It Out - Netsky
Vowels - Capital Cities
Smooth Sailin' - Leon Bridges
Cake By The Ocean - DNCE

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Part of me feels a bit depressed that someone would in the end wind up listening to the same music over and over again for the remainder of their lives.

Yes, depressing indeed, but very common. In fact, so common that there is at least one whole radio genre that completely serves one segment of that audience. It is called "Classic Rock". Basically, take the playlist from about 1987 from any "Album-Oriented Rock" station of that time, delete 80% of that list including anything remotely adventurous (then, much less now), and repeat it endlessly. "Oh, wow! They're playing 'More Than A Feeling'. I haven't heard that in hours!" :wink:

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Music really connects people to time, place, era and so on.

It sure does that to me, but when a song is played perpetually on radio, it can lose that connection, too. "Hotel California" by the Eagles? It means nothing to me. "Couldn't Get It Right" by the Climax Blues Band, from about the same time period? I can tell you exactly what radio I was using when that song was popular, and the name and location of the store where I bought the radio.

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OMG "Chained to the Rhythm" what an addictive song! :D

Yes, those "Classic Rock" stations just ruin it for me playing the same short playlist over and over and over....
Songs I used to love I can't stand any longer.

A co-worker had one of those stations on all day long in his machine shop, which was right nect to the electronic shop where I was.

I setup some white-noise to mask it off.... ARRGH!

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To me, Sinatra and rap are both just talk. I listen on the radio, and like stations which play new music which has instrumentals and complex vocals. Some of the new ones sound all the same.

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Pbpix wrote:

I'd say ditto on "Stardust" but I was hoping you meant Artie Shaw's version:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUCe-b1IQeU That wasn't a bad recording! I used to play clarinet (before I switched to violin) and I do love that solo.


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DocSlop wrote:
Pbpix wrote:
Stardust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjU6ZjrQulc
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I'd say ditto on "Stardust" but I was hoping you meant Artie Shaw's version:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUCe-b1IQeU That wasn't a bad recording! I used to play clarinet (before I switched to violin) and I do love that solo.

You're right.. that's fantastic too... and i LOVE Artie Shaw.. and the other big bands
Heres a great Artie Shaw with Helen Forrest:
All the things you are:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhBQd2VMWzA

and here's a fun tune by Stan Kenton with June Christiy:
Tampico
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JAkl97Wsc8

Here June Christiy does "It's been a loon long time"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPP6FbbT4UI

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big band and swing era music
I never would have gotten into this kind of ``square'' music of my grandfather's day if it wouldn't have been for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzWiXYLLnhM just like I never would have got into Gay 90s, teens and 20s music if it hadn't have been for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBi8_GLU3pQ (slide over to 6:00) or any one of a dozen Mitch Miller records that were part of just about every household throughout the 50s and 60s.

I was like 7-10 when all these Readers Digest and Longines Symphonette and etc box sets came out - so it was nice to be able to listen to some of these songs re-arranged for a modern 60's and 70s high fidelity (and later stereo) audience - meaning it was a lot more fun to listen to that compared to the original 78s my grandfather had.

Being in middle school band and choir though helped - because both our choirmaster and band director were unabashed 19th and early 20th century music aficionadoes - so for the first year or so we were stuck singing and playing all this ``square'' music. But due to attrition - they both started to allow the other (younger) music teachers to start re-arranging the pop music of the 60s and 70s to a Gay 90s teens, 20s, or Swing Era type style much like Lawrence Welk might have done for his TV show

I got curious one day and couldn't figure out why I never could find 78s that sounded like the 78s on The Swing Era flexidisc - til I found out that since they hadn't paid rights to the original recordings - they just grunged up what they had and used that.

And that's what got me into radio. My cousin's step-dad's neighbor man was over for Christmas Dinner one year - so - as a gag - I put together all 5 Glen Grey songs on the flexidisc with the appropriate spcaing inbetween and filled in the narration myself while the adults were ejoying their pie and coffee - and did the same with the Longines Symphonette.

That helped me get rescued out of Public School three weeks later in January to be able to ``major'' in radio and TV in the City Magnet Academy.
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"Classic Rock" stations just ruin it for me playing the same short playlist over and over and over....
I read in a magazine once years ago in an article about people complaining about it - that radio was not meant to be played - even in the background - 24-7 or anything close to it anymore than CNN or The Weather Channel - or cable TV in general.

The average radio listener listens in their car on the way to work and wants to hear the same songs once or twice a week during that time. Since peoples commute times vary - early morning to early drive to late drive to The Listen At Work Station - (where repeats are kept to a minimum because people ARE listening for hours on end) if you e.g. listen to the radio from say 5 AM to 9 AM yes you are going to hear their very short playlist a couple of times through vs midday when you might not hear the same song for a couple three days - even though you might hear it 4 or 5 times during AM or PM drive.

Cable TV same thing especially premium movie channels. They're built for three or four sets of working people who have lives - where one person catches a movie before breakfast one day - the next one catches it in an overnight slot for insomniacs and somebody else catches it in place of soap operas. Neither radio or cable is designed for e.g. homebound seniors and disabled people to be watching/listening all day long everyday and through the night as well.
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Ditto here .You can count me out on any new current music.
Most of today's artists use Autotune since they cant carry a note on key.
I flip between 60s on 6, 70s on 7, The Bridge/Songwriter's Showcase, Willie's Roadhouse, Outlaw Classic Country and Modern Soft Rock - a sort of hybrid between Jack FM and like a Sunny 101 type of format with vocals you can not only HEAR above the track but UNDERSTAND as well AND that have meaning vs all that screaming and yelling.

DirecTV used to have a Game Lounge channel for times when there was nothing worth watching on the service and you didn't want to be stuck in front of your computer playing games. The soundtrack they played was a sort of Modern Rock Lite. Most of the time I had it on real low just to fill in the silence.

But OCCASIONALLYYYYY there'd be something that I'd catch that would be already falling off the charts (or had already done so but still got played on ``pop radio'') - a couple of which a number of years later are making another round on Internet memes and Instagram posts.

Like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UVNT4wvIGY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psuRGfAaju4

or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwmUMvhy-lY

which is a shame 1. she didn't get to play Janis in the movie (or even get allowed to lay in the vocals for somebody else to lip sync since even here she was too old for the part) and 2. that the movie never got made at all cuz it would have been great.

Then they changed it to a kind of Breeze-FM or The Wave type of format so now it was all Gentle Jazz - which is I guess what they call Easy Listening anymore (other than the Zen (funeral home wake channel) they play on the background to the Weather Service.

10-20 years after they'd been out I caught up to records like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-oQKsoW188

or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHqBhRGGPbQ

If you don't know that one, here it is with a little help from the French to become a worldwide hit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk_sAHh9s08

Another one you know but you don't.

original

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD9vjEuLQdc

and with a little help from some different French to become a worldwide hit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATmBOnM
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[/quote][/quote]Cher had a worldwide hit making fun of it by using it at then-unheard-of settings. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p0chD8U8fA

Oh - and when I got bored of U.S. music - modern or classic - I always had my international news correspondent uncle to bring me back records from overseas. After he passed I kept the interest and was glad once Satellite Radio started playing radio hits from other countries - come of which got covered here years later to sometimes great acclaim.

But yeh for the most part I can't listen to modern radio because it all sounds the same - that and too many people today can't sing.

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 Post subject: Re: How many of you still listen to new music?
PostPosted: Jul Thu 27, 2017 2:52 pm 
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I like some of the newer music. There was a lot of synth pop in 2011-2013 that I really liked, as it resembled some of the 80's stuff in feel.

There are a couple newer rock bands I like, Shinedown and Pop Evil have had some catchy songs that I like hearing.

Some of the Alt-rock that's new I also like. Some of it is very catchy, with acoustic as well as electric instruments.

I still like hearing the older stuff (60's, 70's, 80's rock and pop), but I really don't want to live in the past -- some of it brings back bittersweet memories associated with the music -- I don't really want to go back there, because the 'there' wasn't a great place to be all the time.


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The only time I listen to new music is in a movie soundtrack. A good example is the opening music to the movie The Lake House. I just loved that tune and researched and bought the soundtrack to the movie, which also has a Paul McCartney tune. Of course, being 67 years old I can't recall the names of either tune! But I mainly listen to all my old cassettes and records from the 60's to the 80's.


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