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 Post subject: Re: My new project (One of them that is...) RCA 648PTK
PostPosted: Oct Fri 21, 2011 12:26 am 
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no can do on the knob, sorry.


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 Post subject: Re: My new project (One of them that is...) RCA 648PTK
PostPosted: Oct Fri 21, 2011 1:45 am 
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ggregg wrote:
no can do on the knob, sorry.


Thanks for look'in.

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 Post subject: Re: My new project (One of them that is...) RCA 648PTK
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Thank you for your very generous offer, I will send you a list. Is Australia a business trip or pleasure?

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I guess most would call it business. I am here for a month to watch my grandson because his mom and dad are scientists and they are out in the field doing research. Truth be known, it is pleasure or "Holiday". I will most likely have what you need in capacitors. Resistors, I have plenty 1-watt values but almost no 2-watt jobs. But, there is a place about 35 minutes away that sells resistors. I have some electrolytic caps too. Not FP Twist-Lock but discrete values. Take your time and you can send the list via PM...

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 Post subject: Re: My new project (One of them that is...) RCA 648PTK
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The electronics restoration begins...

Lifes disapointing moments :roll: As you can see from the following pictures I'm going to be replacing a lot of cloth wiring,
lots of dried out and frayed insulation! Anyone know of good sources for it?

The radio/amplifier connector.
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This is the CRT cables coming out of the HV chassis, more mashed up cloth wire to be replaced.
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HV Chassis, dirt and dust thru-out
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Audio amp:
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bottom, one curious point to note: There are no large green 2000 ohm ww resisters in the amp like my 8PCS41 had?
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Picture of the restored 8PCS41 amp. I'm not to concerned about the three missing resistor, they don't
appear in any of the RCA or SAMS manuals. These must have been a late design change from RCA in the later model
projection sets.
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TV RF/IF chassis
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bottom there are many black beauty caps replaced in the late 50's
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Optical drum, the mirror is dirty but in pretty good shape!
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Group shot, The main transformer board is not pictured. I've already cleaned it up and checked it out, it's ready to go
and has been installed back into the cabinet.
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Most all of the chassis' had service tags on them.
The owner's info:
Fi Urban
5804 Artesian Ave.
Chicago Ill
648PTK
Last serviced 12/15/57
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 Post subject: Re: My new project (One of them that is...) RCA 648PTK
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Well after doing some internet detective work, here's a picture of the 648PTK's original home.
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It was built in 1929, owner back then was Fizal Urban. From the fancy appearance of the house
and the $1200 price tag on the TV set when it was new I'd say MR. Urban must have been doing well back then.

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 Post subject: Re: My new project (One of them that is...) RCA 648PTK
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Worked on cleaning up the Amplifier chassis. scrubbed the chassis and sanded and repainted the transformer cover.
My plan is to get the power supply, amplifier and radio chassis' going first. Then move on to the television section last.
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 Post subject: Re: My new project (One of them that is...) RCA 648PTK
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That's My Boy, Steve. Good work, as always... 8)

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 Post subject: Re: My new project (One of them that is...) RCA 648PTK
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M3-SRT8 wrote:
That's My Boy, Steve. Good work, as always... 8)


It's a start Lee, got a way to go. I'm hoping by mid November to be listening to the 3 band radio and playing a phonograph thru it.

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 Post subject: Re: My new project (One of them that is...) RCA 648PTK
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Those cadmium resistors tend to open, and, short out. I'd replace it completely.
I've had three fail, and, have one in my 1946 641 tv combination there one resistor shorted, and, two others openned up. It uses the same amp.
In fact, that short also blew out the field coil in the spkr.
I now have my radio playing, but, have been very dissappointed in reception, and, haven't yet gotten around to phonograph, and, tv chassis.
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 Post subject: Re: My new project (One of them that is...) RCA 648PTK
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Working on the optics today cleaning and painting the drum. cleaning the main spherical mirror.
Mouse poop has etched areas of the silvering, at some point I'll send it out but for now it will work.

Here are some before shots of the mouse house.
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Drum tilted holder casting.
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Dirty mirrorMouse Pee and Poo
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Cleaned mirror, not perfect but it will work for testing once the electronics get powered up. In the upper right you can see the mouse damage etched into the silvering.
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 Post subject: Re: My new project (One of them that is...) RCA 648PTK
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The refinished optical drum (optics not installed).
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Optics back in.
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 Post subject: Re: My new project (One of them that is...) RCA 648PTK
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Did you ever get the mirrors on you other set re-silvered? If so, how did it turn out?

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Tom Schulz wrote:
Did you ever get the mirrors on you other set re-silvered? If so, how did it turn out?


Not yet, there's always a better place for the money to go these days :lol: Someday!

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 Post subject: Re: My new project (One of them that is...) RCA 648PTK
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I worked on the main multi-cable today, not real pretty but it's electrically safe.

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 Post subject: Re: My new project (One of them that is...) RCA 648PTK
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pielock373 wrote:
Worked on cleaning up the Amplifier chassis. scrubbed the chassis and sanded and repainted the transformer cover.
My plan is to get the power supply, amplifier and radio chassis' going first. Then move on to the television section last.


Steve,

Do you mind sharing what you painted the transformer with?

Thanks.


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 Post subject: Re: My new project (One of them that is...) RCA 648PTK
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neali wrote:
pielock373 wrote:
Worked on cleaning up the Amplifier chassis. scrubbed the chassis and sanded and repainted the transformer cover.
My plan is to get the power supply, amplifier and radio chassis' going first. Then move on to the television section last.


Steve,

Do you mind sharing what you painted the transformer with?

Thanks.


Lots of sanding, primer and Rusholeum Satan Black.

Steve


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 Post subject: Re: My new project (One of them that is...) RCA 648PTK
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neali wrote:
pielock373 wrote:
Worked on cleaning up the Amplifier chassis. scrubbed the chassis and sanded and repainted the transformer cover.
My plan is to get the power supply, amplifier and radio chassis' going first. Then move on to the television section last.


Steve,

Do you mind sharing what you painted the transformer with?

Thanks.


Lots of sanding, primer and Rusholeum Satan Black.

Steve


Rustoleum Satin Black, #7777. Not too shiny, not to flat. Just about right and I always have lots of it around my work bench. Great for auto restoration as well; brackets, air cleaners, etc. Great job. Don't forget to start the list of caps you need...

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 Post subject: Re: My new project (One of them that is...) RCA 648PTK
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Steve-what a great thread with all your wonderful photos and the transformation of that RCA keeper.
Well done Sir !!

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 Post subject: Re: My new project (One of them that is...) RCA 648PTK
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Looking good Steve, I really enjoy following your threads and seeing the transformations of the basket cases you take on! :wink: The photo of that apartment where the original owner of the RCA lived, suits the grand style of the set itself. That RCA must have been a real statement back then.... and still is :)
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 Post subject: Re: My new project (One of them that is...) RCA 648PTK
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Thanks Don and Steve for the paint advice. Steve, this is another unbelievable restoration thread to watch. Thank you.


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