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Bill Cahill
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Post subject: Re: New addition, 1947 General Electric 802 Floor Console Posted: Dec Wed 28, 2011 4:17 am |
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All voltage chatactoristics are the same as 10BP4. Bill Cahill
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Post subject: Re: New addition, 1947 General Electric 802 Floor Console Posted: Dec Wed 28, 2011 10:50 pm |
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ketron281989 wrote: I have a B+K CRT tester/rejuvenation, to test the CRT, there is listed the Heater voltage and adapter socket, I know about the adapter socket. Is the HTR range the same as heater voltage. Yes. Set the control to minimum, move the switch to 4-7 volts, then turn the power on and adjust the control for 6.3 volts on the meter.
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bandersen
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Post subject: Re: New addition, 1947 General Electric 802 Floor Console Posted: Dec Thu 29, 2011 4:54 am |
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Also, if the readings are low at first, let it warm up for an hour or more. These old CRTs that have been sitting round for decades can take a good long while to come back to life. Using the rejuvination feature is a bad idea. These a chance you could blow a lot of material off the cathode or burn out the filament. I've got my fingers crossed for ya 
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ketron281989
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Post subject: Re: New addition, 1947 General Electric 802 Floor Console Posted: Dec Thu 29, 2011 5:08 am |
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ketron281989
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Post subject: Re: New addition, 1947 General Electric 802 Floor Console Posted: Dec Thu 29, 2011 5:10 am |
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Bob, also I did mention that the base is quite loose, you can see old glue residue from decades ago, I when to the auto store and bought some Permatex as recommended in your video on gluing a base to that globe tube that was missing. Would this be good for the CRT, or should I use something else. Thanks Jon
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bandersen
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Post subject: Re: New addition, 1947 General Electric 802 Floor Console Posted: Dec Thu 29, 2011 5:49 am |
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Yes, I've used Permatex Windshield & Glass Sealer on loose CRT bases with good results.
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vts1134
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Post subject: Re: New addition, 1947 General Electric 802 Floor Console Posted: Dec Thu 29, 2011 2:58 pm |
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Eric H wrote: The 10FP4 was standard equipment on early GE sets. Hmm... I just acquired a GE 801 and it has a GE branded 10BP4 with an ion trap. Could be that they used the 10FP4 when they could and the 10BP4 when supplies ran low.
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ketron281989
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Post subject: Re: New addition, 1947 General Electric 802 Floor Console Posted: Dec Thu 29, 2011 8:39 pm |
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vts1134 that is an interesting thought. My paper label on back of the cabinet has the 10BP4, but someone crossed it off with pencil and wrote in 10FP4. I still have to test my picture tube. Did your's test good or decent? I am scared that mine will be dead.
BUT I think otherwise now. Even though does not really reinforce what the picture tube might read. I pulled out all the tubes, cleaned each and came across one that was made in Japan. I will keep it for now unless I have a USA one on hand.
My question is to all of you is when did the US start receiving Japan made vacuum tubes. This is the first time I have come across this with all 7 or 8 sets I have already cleaned in my collection.
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Bill Cahill
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Post subject: Re: New addition, 1947 General Electric 802 Floor Console Posted: Dec Thu 29, 2011 8:40 pm |
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Are you sure yours is an FP4? They would be aluminized. GE only used that tube on some models, I've found. I have one bakelite GE Locomotive with original 10BP4, and, the tube chart shows that number. Bill Cahill
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bandersen
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Post subject: Re: New addition, 1947 General Electric 802 Floor Console Posted: Dec Thu 29, 2011 8:52 pm |
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Yeah, I think only some models and early production sets used a 10BP4. My GE 800 locomotive shows a 10BP4 while my GE 802, 806 and 810 show a 10FP4 in the tube chart.
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ketron281989
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Post subject: Re: New addition, 1947 General Electric 802 Floor Console Posted: Dec Thu 29, 2011 9:37 pm |
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I do wonder why someone crossed out the 10BP4 and put a 10FP4, a replacement? Also on the tag it says 802, Bob, does yours also say 802, from your pictures yours stated 802-DP, mine is a 802.
here is what I don't get, look to the right of 802, is this a sub model like bandersens, I don't know
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bandersen
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Post subject: Re: New addition, 1947 General Electric 802 Floor Console Posted: Dec Thu 29, 2011 11:08 pm |
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Here's the label from mine. I suspect yours is an earlier production run with the changes penciled in. The rest appears to be identical. 
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Tom Schulz
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Post subject: Re: New addition, 1947 General Electric 802 Floor Console Posted: Dec Thu 29, 2011 11:27 pm |
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vts1134 wrote: Eric H wrote: The 10FP4 was standard equipment on early GE sets. Hmm... I just acquired a GE 801 and it has a GE branded 10BP4 with an ion trap. Could be that they used the 10FP4 when they could and the 10BP4 when supplies ran low. I expect that they switched to the 10FP4 almost as soon as it became available. They would not necessarily change model numbers or wait for a new model to come out.
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ketron281989
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Post subject: Re: New addition, 1947 General Electric 802 Floor Console Posted: Dec Fri 30, 2011 12:03 am |
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bandersen wrote: Here's the label from mine. I suspect yours is an earlier production run with the changes penciled in. The rest appears to be identical.  So I would have to agree that my model was a earlier production run, as Tom just stated, they turned to the 10FP4 when available, and still used the earlier sticker when the 10BP4 was common. good I was curious to see why the difference.
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Eric H
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Post subject: Re: New addition, 1947 General Electric 802 Floor Console Posted: Dec Fri 30, 2011 11:17 pm |
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In some of GE's early 50's advertising they use the term Black-Daylight Television, I wonder if this referred to an Aluminized tube or DC restoration, or both?
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Bill Cahill
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Post subject: Re: New addition, 1947 General Electric 802 Floor Console Posted: Dec Fri 30, 2011 11:21 pm |
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Actually, it refers to the phosphor. It was supposed to be better quality. Bill Cahill
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bandersen
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Post subject: Re: New addition, 1947 General Electric 802 Floor Console Posted: Dec Fri 30, 2011 11:40 pm |
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Eric H wrote: In some of GE's early 50's advertising they use the term Black-Daylight Television... Here's an example of those ads: http://library.duke.edu/digitalcollecti ... ss_TV0598/"58% deeper blacks and 140% great picture range" - of course there's no mention of what they are comparing it to 
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Post subject: Re: New addition, 1947 General Electric 802 Floor Console Posted: May Fri 25, 2012 4:16 am |
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I know this is an old post, but I think I just bought the record changer for the original cabinet. If you are around and interested, let me know. How about a trade? 
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Post subject: Re: New addition, 1947 General Electric 802 Floor Console Posted: Sep Tue 18, 2012 12:07 am |
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I have the exact same unit. I am not a collector or a radio buff, but i dont want to just throw it away please let me know if you or anyone else is interested. Thanks
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Bill Cahill
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Post subject: Re: New addition, 1947 General Electric 802 Floor Console Posted: Sep Tue 18, 2012 12:33 am |
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Where are you located? I know people would be interested, but, without knowledge of where you are, it's hard to tell. Bill Cahill
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