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 Post subject: I picked up this 1956 Saba
PostPosted: Jan Tue 03, 2017 3:12 pm 
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Hello all, I ws given this 1956 Saba as the guy that had it had no interest in resoring it,but about 6 months ago he paid a Teco to replace a couple of caps and it was up and running.
Anyway i have it now and its quite rare old black white tv. I have lots of vintage tvs but this is the only no earth chassis model , all my others are active neutral and earth chassis,
Anyway i thought i would post a photo of it here to show you all and for those folks who helped me out regarding photo uploads ,,thank you pete

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http://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/ah1 ... kn38tk.jpg

Sorry good people ,i cant get the photos up,, i have tried everyhing ,even went to other sites and it worked there?.. need a coffee hmmmm


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 Post subject: Re: I picked up this 1956 Saba
PostPosted: Jan Tue 03, 2017 11:49 pm 
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It is working now.

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 Post subject: Re: I picked up this 1956 Saba
PostPosted: Jan Tue 03, 2017 11:59 pm 
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Thanks Tom ,
The mytery deepens its not showing up on my tablet. Well as long as you guys can see the photo thats all that matters I guess.
Thanks again ,pete


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 Post subject: Re: I picked up this 1956 Saba
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Here you go. There's an icon of a chain link at the top of the Photobucket website. Click on that to bring up photo links for a variety of websites. I chose the one in the bottom-right for 'IMG' and pasted it below.

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 Post subject: Re: I picked up this 1956 Saba
PostPosted: Jan Wed 04, 2017 9:00 am 
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Very nice looking set and appears to be in great cosmetic condition. I like the TV lamp on top!


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 Post subject: Re: I picked up this 1956 Saba
PostPosted: Jan Wed 04, 2017 10:26 pm 
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Happy new year!

I see that you are in Australia.
This is an Electrosound-SABA, I own the same, bought back from Australia!
The chassis is made in Germany as an export chassis.
It is the 1955 set model 544, but sold in 1956 to the opening of australian
television.
The scale has the Electrosound logo added to the SABA logo.
Writing is in english.
The cabin and the huge speaker is made in Sidney by Electrosound.
They made radios and as I am right record players.
Do you need any schematics?

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 Post subject: Re: I picked up this 1956 Saba
PostPosted: Jan Wed 04, 2017 10:58 pm 
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I like it. Did you match it up with it's radio equivalent?

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 Post subject: Re: I picked up this 1956 Saba
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Hi all ,sorry about the delay post,,,flat out of late.
Ok,,thanks for fixing the photo up for me ,i was having lots of dramas posting it,
Thank you

The lamp is a 1958 Barsony Lamp also called the black lady lamp. I have a few of them and i though it would go well with the tv for a photo


Yes i live in Australia,,,Sydney , the tv is a 240 volt Saba Electrosound in pretty good condtion for a 60 year old tv set, It has 2 differant veneers ,the outside being a very ornate Walnut

Its the only one i have come across and i have been collecting vintage tvs a long time,but its like everything else ,,its a matter of being in the right place at the right time and that boils down to luck i think. Its always good to find a 50s tv set ,,,, pete


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 Post subject: Re: I picked up this 1956 Saba
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Hey six million dollarman,,we crossed paths before,,,i was giving away a 1957 STC cabinet and you contacted me? Must be you there is just not a lot of vintage tv collectors in the world,,, and Germany would have very few i imagine?
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 Post subject: Re: I picked up this 1956 Saba
PostPosted: Jan Fri 06, 2017 9:16 pm 
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Hi Pete,

Yes, I remember now.
And I still need this ornamental strip!

Germany has a few collectors of television.
But the scene is small, there are more radio collectors which owns
1-3 TV sets.
What I can say is, enter german radio forums and visit the TV-sections.
See the last date of posts, they are dead!

GERMANY:
1) http://radio-bastler.de/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=23
Last post in October! :shock:

2) https://www.gfgf.org/Forum/index.php?t= ... frm_id=25&
Last post in August, last summer!

3) http://www.wumpus-gollum-forum.de/forum ... ex-14.html
Wow, a post a few days ago, but the pre-post was made in November!

4) http://www.smartfernsehen.de/viewforum. ... 754e4323e9
Yep, 3 posts in 3 years ----- 8) / Last post in April last year!

5) http://www.dampfradioforum.de/viewforum.php?f=36
About 3 posts, partly with modern color TVs, each month....... :mrgreen:

6) http://saba-forum.dl2jas.com/board3-vid ... f25185990b
SABA discussions only, 2 posts in December, 1 in November, 1 in October,
1 in June and 1 in January! Heck, 7 posts in one year are making me
TV-hot! :roll:


NETHERLANDS:
1) http://www.gloeidraad.nl/radioforum/
This forum generator belongs to the museum, there is a TV-talk among the radio
discussions.
Themes are: Philips, Philips, Philips, and Philips......yeah, and not to forget: Philips! 8)

FRANCE
1) http://www.radiofil.fr/
There is a second forum, closeby dead, too.

There is only life in the 405 lines country!
http://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/foru ... y.php?f=37
See the number of posts and clicks!


I stopped writing in these german forums a long time ago, we have here moderation problems
and I don`t need a "one-way-discussion"!

Scotty, beam me up! :(

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 Post subject: Re: I picked up this 1956 Saba
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Good to touch base with you again, I will keep an eye out for that trim for you, there is still a lot of old tvs down here, STC is a rarer model in oz but ,their still about, I had a round screen STC once,, let me know if i can help you from this end of the world,,,all the best ,pete


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 Post subject: Re: I picked up this 1956 Saba
PostPosted: Jan Sat 07, 2017 10:44 am 
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Hi Pete,

Is there something wrong with your CRT-mask or is it dirt?
My actual computer has no graphics card. So I cannot see clearly.
You can have a good one from me for 5 Euros plus shipping.
Without the inner gasket, they are breaking.

I can offer you for free the australian and the german sales literature for
this set.
Have to scan it at work if requested.
Just need your email by PM.

To other readers:
All german consumer TVs had life chassis, to satisfy australian laws transformers
(1/1) had to be added.

Not very well visible, there is a real key to switch the TV on/off, it can be pulled.

My set has an australian Myers CRT, have no idea if the chassis were exportet
with a german Siemens tube or were mounted in general with australian tubes.

Happy week-end,
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 Post subject: Re: I picked up this 1956 Saba
PostPosted: Jan Sat 07, 2017 11:52 am 
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@ M3-SRT8

I should like to say no, not really.
SABA TV sets had no seperate controls for treble and bass.
But this is a must if you like to enjoy music on television.

This TV set in question has a good speaker, but no tweeter!
And its a console! :idea:
There is space enough!

Graetz TV sets, yes table sets too, were offered in general
with seperate controls for treble and bass.
Consoles and table sets had minimum 2 speakers, a front tweeter
and a woofer on the side.
See my 1956 Graetz Kornett F 27 - 17", behind the grill is an oval
tweeter mounted, the bigger wheels, horizontal mounted, are
treble and bass controls (This set is a 1979 street find, I think you
call it curb).
Btw. these Graetz sets were sold to Australia, too.

Philips had a pull on/off knob to switch between speach and music.

Only a few german companies offered in 1956 TV sets seperate controls
for treble and bass and more than one speaker inside a table set.

So if you want to have a TV set with the sound of a SABA radio you have
to buy a Graetz TV receiver! :)

Best regards,
SIXMILLION DOLLARMAN :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: I picked up this 1956 Saba
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That my friend is a Beauty ! Very classic lines,,,very nice ,,.
My saba mask is just dirty .I have not gone over it yet other than just having a look in the back with a torch,just to see how it was built. I have some other German stuff too and its always well built with lots of thought ,even the capacitors are organized with their values facing upwards.

I have not started working on it yet because im working on a Precedent Tv set which is a 3 in one. I was after one for years and about a month ago I found one about 2 hours drive away from here ,So i was very happy with it, cosmetics are like new but ,its loosing voltage 650v than after 10 minutes its down to 530 volts and screen goes dark,,,,but i will get there sooner or later.


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 Post subject: Re: I picked up this 1956 Saba
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Have you been to Australia? I have been to Germany, very pretty country side ,but gosh way to cold for my bones, I tented it in winter once,,,, younger and silly than,haha,,pete


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 Post subject: Re: I picked up this 1956 Saba
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Hi Pete,
I think it is late evening in your country, here it is just 3.45 pm.

No I`ve never been in Australia.
As I was a child I wanted to move over to Australia.
Why?
That`s why!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G5dBIk3PbU
(have now all episodes on DVD/german synchronized)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx6435PA_A0

I have a cousin who lives in the Melbourne area, married with an australian wife.
But forget him, he was the last one who offers me help to ship TVs.
But I know 2 Australian collectors who helped me in the past very well.

There is still a Kriesler Compumatic with wire remote waiting to ship over to
Germany.

I planned to visit Australia to buy an early TV set, but then there was EBAY!
All I bought was "local pick-up only!", don`t ask me what these sellers wrote me
as they saw that I am in Germany! :mrgreen: There is not the right smiley
available! :!:

The other problem is that you are all driving on the wrong side of the road! :mrgreen:
I know this kind of driving from England.

Btw. I bought me a nice collection of TV guides, 50s to today, so I know whats going on
on your screen.

It still make me wonder that your country, as part of the Commonwealth, decided
against the british 405 lines system and against the american NTSC, which is your culture
by the language.
Europe is far away from Australia, small, and in 1956 only Denmark, Germany, Italy,
Netherlands and Switzerland had an experience with the CCIR standard.

Austria started in 1957, Norway in 1960, Sweden in 1956, Finland in 1957, Belgium and France
had there own AM-sound standards.
Because of the cold war there was no interest to buy something which was constructed
behind the iron curtain.

Today I can say that I have a fine collection of australian TV sets.

It is now really cold here, roads are dangerous icy!

Regards,
SIXMILLION DOLLARMAN :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: I picked up this 1956 Saba
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Yes its 2am here Is it a computermatc 1962? I have one ,The channel changer is problematic, ,,*** nightmare*** i have one in rosewood finish,They have beautiful finishes, far better than a Pye etc,etc,
Australia is only part of the commonwealth as a gesture to the British Its very multicultural here in sydney ,, im afraid im not very patrotic regarding OZ,
Its far too costly to live here now,
When i was in your country the Wall had only just come down and so i was able to cross over to the east and when i did ,all the shops had old 50s toasters and 50s cameras in their windows even though it was about January 1990,
It was very interesting .you must have a fantastic collection of vintage tv sets,
Well time for bed, I have a buba she will be calling me in about 3 hours and expecting me to be a ball of energy haha

Pete


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 Post subject: Re: I picked up this 1956 Saba
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Have a good sleep.
Yes, a 1962 console, where is the problem exactly?. :?
But there are so many stamps with the Queen on it!
What`s a buba? Female baby?

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 Post subject: Re: I picked up this 1956 Saba
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Those Krieslers were a quality unit and were much more costly to buy in their day compared to a Pye or an Astor etc, But the early computermatics channel changer would miss or skip channels on some models,,its mechanical. I had 2 of them ,1 I fixed and its working well ,the other one was just so unreliable that i eventually gave up on it and i convertered it to a color CRT using a curved tube and mother board ,I gave it to my daughter who is 11 and its her daily driver in her bedroom, it was just beyond repair .thats it pictured in my avatar, ,,,,,but the other one is original and all works fine.
I dont have an electronic background,just self taught off the net and what i have learnt over the years collecting vintage tvs.
Yes buba is my daughter who is two,,my wife is over seas so there is just us here


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Im a 1950s collector see my link of my place

https://youtu.be/ZRY3sE1RgKk


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