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 Post subject: Why don't Emerson TV's get more attention?
PostPosted: Nov Sun 12, 2017 5:22 pm 
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I was just wondering the other day why I almost never see any Emerson TV's as part of any vintage TV buff's collection. I know they weren't built to the same quality as others, but that doesn't stop collectors of other things. Emerson was consistently one of the top ten producers in the US, they had some interesting cabinets, and there's lots available still today.

So, what gives? Am I wrong? Am I missing something?

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 Post subject: Re: Why don't Emerson TV's get more attention?
PostPosted: Nov Sun 12, 2017 5:35 pm 
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Can't answer your question. Quality was quite good in the '50's. Perhaps Bill Feingold leaving and going to Andrea changed things?

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 Post subject: Re: Why don't Emerson TV's get more attention?
PostPosted: Nov Sun 12, 2017 7:15 pm 
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I'm currently restoring a 1949 Emerson projection TV (model 609):

https://antiqueradio.org/Emerson609Proj ... vision.htm

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Much work has been done, but I'm waiting for the cabinet to be refinished. The build quality is nothing to write home about. Whether it will be watchable when I'm done is a huge unknown, since I lack the special factory jigs for aligning the optics after resilvering the mirrors.

I restored one other Emerson, a 1956 model 1232 TV/radio tabletop:

https://antiqueradio.org/emer1232.htm

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That later set was much easier to restore and it worked well.

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 Post subject: Re: Why don't Emerson TV's get more attention?
PostPosted: Nov Sun 12, 2017 7:41 pm 
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Emerson sets surface fairly often around here. I love the salmon color of this one. I sure wish I could locate a replacement Emerson badge for it.


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 Post subject: Re: Why don't Emerson TV's get more attention?
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They probably didn't sell in the numbers that RCA and Philco did, and the early Emerson sets, like the 571 are a nightmare to rebuild with their five rectifier tubes and their nine electrolytic cans mounted on the chassis. :x


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 Post subject: Re: Why don't Emerson TV's get more attention?
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Kevin Kuehn wrote:
Emerson sets surface fairly often around here. I love the salmon color of this one. I sure wish I could locate a replacement Emerson badge it.



I have that one in a faux fabric type finish, appearance wise they are nearly identical to the GE/Hotpoint models.


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 Post subject: Re: Why don't Emerson TV's get more attention?
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Here's a 698 Series B I picked up a while back.


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 Post subject: Re: Why don't Emerson TV's get more attention?
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Typical Emerson rats nest wiring, complete with evidence of real rats gnawing at it. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Why don't Emerson TV's get more attention?
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It's likly just your own personal observations that Emerson TV's are not in often found collections. Actually they are pretty popular and work quite well. Two standout models are the 7" model 639:
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and the Ingraham cabinet model 628:
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I just recently got the cloth covered version of the 639 myself, the model 600:
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 Post subject: Re: Why don't Emerson TV's get more attention?
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I have one of these 16" sets from (I think) 1950, it also has an Ingraham cabinet.
I can't recall the model right off but it seems to be fairly scarce as I've only found one other example online.

This picture was the one found online, I don't have a good picture of mine at the moment.


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 Post subject: Re: Why don't Emerson TV's get more attention?
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Our family got an Emerson set in about 1955 or '56 which had an unpainted wood-composite cabinet. My mom had a thing for turquoise at the time and the set got painted to match the living room. We used it for several years and then it got relegated to the basement play room. When I got home from college in 1971 I fixed it up (a bad cap, weak vertical tube, and one wildly out of tolerance resistor, IIRC), used it for a couple more years and then gave it to a grad-student friend whose set had died. He used it for a few more years until moving. Not bad!

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 Post subject: Re: Why don't Emerson TV's get more attention?
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Kevin Kuehn wrote:
Here's a 698 Series B I picked up a while back.

Have you restored it yet? Gotta love the power supply! I spent many hours on mine, and it will work well for a while, then the sync goes wacky. Need to get back into it to analyze the sync circuits, both H and V. Perfect wave form from the synchroguide. Nice looking little set that displays well, though. I saved it from dumpster doom at the museum where I volunteer. At least the CRT is very strong, so there is hope. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Why don't Emerson TV's get more attention?
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stromberg6 wrote:
Kevin Kuehn wrote:
Here's a 698 Series B I picked up a while back.

Have you restored it yet? Gotta love the power supply! I spent many hours on mine, and it will work well for a while, then the sync goes wacky. Need to get back into it to analyze the sync circuits, both H and V. Perfect wave form from the synchroguide. Nice looking little set that displays well, though. I saved it from dumpster doom at the museum where I volunteer. At least the CRT is very strong, so there is hope. :lol:


Mines a work in progress too. I've fallen into the bad habit of starting on too many projects all at once, and then I can never keep up with the work(hobby) load. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Why don't Emerson TV's get more attention?
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I have a couple Emerson tv sets in my collection; to include a projection set like "Philsoldradios" set. The only difference is mine is in a blonde cabinet. I also have a table top set.

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 Post subject: Re: Why don't Emerson TV's get more attention?
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I have a few but have not gotten around to restoring any of them. I especially like the bakelite set :)

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 Post subject: Re: Why don't Emerson TV's get more attention?
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Yes that Bakelite set is very worthy.


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 Post subject: Re: Why don't Emerson TV's get more attention?
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Kevin Kuehn wrote:
Yes that Bakelite set is very worthy.

I agree with the bakelite semi-porthole models. I forgot that one myself. They're actually a couple of versions of that one. They used to be overlooked years ago, but have become popular.


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 Post subject: Re: Why don't Emerson TV's get more attention?
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decojoe67 wrote:
They're actually a couple of versions of that one. They used to be overlooked years ago, but have become popular.


Yep. The one above is a 648A. I also scored a very similar 614 in an action lot when I got my Dumont Clifton.

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There's also a small plastic bank modeled after it.
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 Post subject: Re: Why don't Emerson TV's get more attention?
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Has the model 628 become popular? I like the one pictured above in the wood cabinet! There is one for sale in pretty rough condition with lots of rust on the chassis, but cabinet looks pretty fair for $50.00. problem is it's nearly 400 miles round trip through New York City. Waiting on more info from seller.


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 Post subject: Re: Why don't Emerson TV's get more attention?
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Has the model 628 become popular? I like the one pictured above in the wood cabinet! There is one for sale in pretty rough condition with lots of rust on the chassis, but cabinet looks pretty fair for $50.00. problem is it's nearly 400 miles round trip through New York City. Waiting on more info from seller.

The 628 has ALWAYS been popular. It has a beautiful radio-like Ingraham cabinet. I passed on a nearly mint one, elec. unrestored, several years back at the local radio-meet for $325 I believe. I just wasn't interested in it for that kind of money, but now I wish I got it! They're hard to find. $50 is fair deal if the CRT is good, but that's quite a lot of driving. Also, when a set looks rough like you say, in photos, it'll likely look 2X worse in person.
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