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Post subject: Re: Another GE P-780A---what's a guy to do ??? ( Project tim Posted: Aug Thu 02, 2012 6:25 pm |
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Joined: Apr Thu 19, 2012 6:50 am Posts: 779 Location: Connecticut
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What a shame the acid did so much damage.
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xrhonda91
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Post subject: Re: Another GE P-780A---what's a guy to do ??? ( Project tim Posted: Aug Fri 03, 2012 1:53 am |
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Joined: Oct Mon 26, 2009 10:02 pm Posts: 1725 Location: Indianapolis, IN
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It sure is... But I saw the "evidence" on lower external edge of chrome on underside of radio & inside battery compartment when checking out the radio for the first time---but after deciding against and passing by the unsold radio several times during almost a year & finally having the owner make that "unrefusable" offer, I "broke"... Wonder how many here could have left this "poor" thing to gather dust & possibly be trashed ?
John
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xrhonda91
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Post subject: Re: Another GE P-780A---what's a guy to do ??? ( Project tim Posted: Aug Fri 03, 2012 2:08 am |
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Joined: Oct Mon 26, 2009 10:02 pm Posts: 1725 Location: Indianapolis, IN
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Hello Vimal---almost missed your post as thread turned to page 2, sorry !
Plan to thoroughly clean bearing area with Acetone over the weekend & repack---the original grease still seemed soft & okay as well as the bearings appearing "shiny" before I added a drop of synthetic oil, but something still has to be causing the slight "drag"...
John
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xrhonda91
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Post subject: Re: Another GE P-780A---what's a guy to do ??? ( Project tim Posted: Aug Sun 05, 2012 3:41 am |
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Joined: Oct Mon 26, 2009 10:02 pm Posts: 1725 Location: Indianapolis, IN
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What a day...
Spent hours on tuning cap bearings... After rolling a paper napkin & wrapping it around shaft, used a short length of 18 ga. teflon sleeving as a pipette, "dribbled" acetone on old bearing grease from cap. inside to remove it & clean bearings of residue. Worked cap. through range several times after each application. After grease & residue completely gone, continued process many more times using air nozzle to blow dry... Shaft rotation slowly became easier & smoother---when no more improvement noticed, poured small quantity of acetone through bearings & blow dried thoroughly once again. Then packed bearings from outside with Valvoline hi-performance wheel bearing grease using Q-tip shaft to work in thoroughly... Shaft now rotates very smoothly & easily...
Then carefully cleaned cap body & pulley with Q-tips & acetone to remove any grease residue before installation...
Carefully cleaned tuning knob hub and all dialcord pulleys with acetone. Since the original dialcord had already been contaminated with grease, thought I'd see if it would withstand the acetone without damage---it did & cleaned up great... Put it all together & no good !!! The dialcord still slipped on knob hub ! Tried an extra turn & more spring tension, same thing. So cut a length of new dial cord & same result ! You could rotate cap. pulley and spin knob, but knob just won't move cord ! All pulleys move freely, cord is routed correctly, but will not work ! Really frustrated & angry about this after all the work---any ideas ??? It did work somewhat originally, even with tight cap & "sticky" pulleys !
John
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PBPP
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Post subject: Re: Another GE P-780A---what's a guy to do ??? ( Project tim Posted: Aug Sun 05, 2012 3:56 am |
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Joined: Jun Tue 21, 2011 8:27 pm Posts: 2093 Location: Virginia
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I hear your frustration John. - Put it aside for a few days and sleep on it.
~ Mitch ~
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Vimal Oberoi
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Post subject: Re: Another GE P-780A---what's a guy to do ??? ( Project tim Posted: Aug Sun 05, 2012 5:23 am |
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Joined: Aug Thu 02, 2012 6:41 am Posts: 5
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John, Relax,take a deep breath & recheck if,"cord is routed correctly''?All the patience you have shown should bear fruits:)
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xrhonda91
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Post subject: Re: Another GE P-780A---what's a guy to do ??? ( Project tim Posted: Aug Sun 05, 2012 5:46 am |
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Joined: Oct Mon 26, 2009 10:02 pm Posts: 1725 Location: Indianapolis, IN
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Thanks guys...
Patience gone for now on this---hopefully it'll go better tomorrow...
John
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Post subject: Re: Another GE P-780A---what's a guy to do ??? ( Project tim Posted: Aug Sun 05, 2012 8:49 pm |
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Joined: Mar Fri 16, 2007 6:14 am Posts: 1783 Location: Central Pa.
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What I did with one of these is steal my wife's 3M spray adhesive, squirt some on a piece of scrap, and take a cut Q-tip and use that to apply a little of it to the slipping shaft. A small amount-please! Worked the tuning back and forth and all was fine. YMMV, usual disclaimer applies-it is sticky stuff and makes a mess. Some will transfer to the cord but so what?
If this is uncomfortable, try it on a junker first to get the technique.
Had a Royal 1000 doing the same thing-took care of it also.
Rich
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xrhonda91
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Post subject: Re: Another GE P-780A---what's a guy to do ??? ( Project tim Posted: Aug Mon 06, 2012 1:05 am |
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PBPP
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Post subject: Re: Another GE P-780A---what's a guy to do ??? ( Project tim Posted: Aug Mon 06, 2012 3:37 am |
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Looks Bitchen John!
~ Mitch ~
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Dorpmuller
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Post subject: Re: Another GE P-780A---what's a guy to do ??? ( Project tim Posted: Aug Mon 06, 2012 4:29 am |
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Joined: Mar Fri 16, 2007 6:14 am Posts: 1783 Location: Central Pa.
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 That's something! I have one in bad shape I should try but I'd have to get medicated to get the courage! With mine I was happy to just get it clean in and out and have it work. Some I didn't even recap-the originals and the recapped radios sound equally as good anyway. Rich
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Colin A.
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Post subject: Re: Another GE P-780A---what's a guy to do ??? ( Project tim Posted: Aug Mon 06, 2012 3:56 pm |
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Joined: Aug Wed 26, 2009 1:50 am Posts: 444 Location: Oxford, Michigan 48371
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Great job John. All it needs now is its hangtag!
Colin
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xrhonda91
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Post subject: Re: Another GE P-780A---what's a guy to do ??? ( Project tim Posted: Aug Tue 07, 2012 2:05 am |
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Joined: Oct Mon 26, 2009 10:02 pm Posts: 1725 Location: Indianapolis, IN
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Thanks guys ! Rich, all 3 of mine worked fine with original caps & two I couldn't tell difference with new---just would hate to disassemble again ! Colin---didn't even think of that ! Had already put tag away in envelope... But thanks to your suggestion, got it out and took another pic---tag itself didn't photograph too well, but it's there... Thanks for the mention ! ( the '58 red WE 500 wanted in the shot, too ) And you're the only one who's asked for the hi-res scans of the hang-tag ! viewtopic.php?f=4&t=199802
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Bruce Webster
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Post subject: Re: Another GE P-780A---what's a guy to do ??? ( Project tim Posted: Aug Wed 08, 2012 12:38 am |
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Looking great, John! Thanks for investigating into a permanent fix for the slipping cord. You bet I'll be performing the same treatment to the shaft on mine. If I run into troubles I'll simply call you on the hot line Bruce Webster
_________________ Radio Zoomer
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xrhonda91
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Post subject: Re: Another GE P-780A---what's a guy to do ??? ( Project tim Posted: Aug Wed 08, 2012 1:05 am |
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Joined: Oct Mon 26, 2009 10:02 pm Posts: 1725 Location: Indianapolis, IN
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Thanks much Bruce !
The "fix" still doing great---imagine that "hub" was glazed/polished before "refinishing" from years of use...
Don't think you'll have any trouble, but below is a "before" close up pic of subassembly... After removing the two hex-head screws & lifting out, the shaft/hub assy. is easily removed by two 9/16" deep well sockets... Should have taken after pics of "hub", but just wanted to "get 'er together" after all the work !
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PBPP
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Post subject: Re: Another GE P-780A---what's a guy to do ??? ( Project tim Posted: Aug Tue 14, 2012 1:13 am |
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Here's the AM/FM version for cheap!($30) - Thought you'd be interested John: ** Link Deleted **
~ Mitch ~
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Post subject: Re: Another GE P-780A---what's a guy to do ??? ( Project tim Posted: Aug Tue 14, 2012 1:27 am |
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Thanks Mitch---wish you'd PM'd me as it will probably be gone... Did send e-mail anyway as I have family & know others in PA...
John
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PBPP
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Post subject: Re: Another GE P-780A---what's a guy to do ??? ( Project tim Posted: Aug Tue 14, 2012 1:35 am |
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You're right... I kinda goofed on that. Hopefully it will still be available. ~ Mitch ~
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Post subject: Re: Another GE P-780A---what's a guy to do ??? ( Project tim Posted: Aug Sun 19, 2012 2:29 pm |
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Joined: Feb Thu 24, 2011 1:29 am Posts: 2809 Location: Dallas, TX - in the city but with bobcats and coyotes
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Nice work. Take it back to the shop and explain that it only took ~70 hours of work to make it a good investment.  If only people knew how much work these can be, the price of a rough one might be a bit more reasonable. I notice that the dial light button is white. I have one with white and one with black.
_________________ In a triode, no one can hear you screen.
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Post subject: Re: Another GE P-780A---what's a guy to do ??? ( Project tim Posted: Aug Mon 20, 2012 1:10 am |
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Hey Jeremy---thanks much & good to hear from you ! Was wondering if you were doing okay...
It was a lot of work, but worth it---turned out much better than I thought... And learned a few things in the process !
Plan to head south again this coming weekend & hope to show this thread to shop proprietor if able ( they have internet behind counter )... And maybe find another "treasure" I don't need !
Is it your "F" model that has black button ? Think that's the only version I've seen pics of that used it...
And where are those pics you promised long ago of your P-780 projects---do you still have them ? Just revisited that old thread last night...
John
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