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 Post subject: Black/chrome Philco T805-126 project...
PostPosted: Feb Wed 21, 2018 3:52 am 
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Hello All,

Had been looking for a black/chrome T805 as a "companion" for my brown/bronze sets and just found one recently on Ebay described as "nearly new condition". Listing only had one pic of it laying flat and could see that chrome had a bit of pitting, so made a reasonable offer. After a couple go-rounds, it was accepted... Received radio today and it is far from "new" condition and has rusted battery contact & spring. My fault for not asking more questions and requesting additional pics... It is in "nice" condition for age, though, and hopefully will clean up well... Applied power with test leads and it does seem to be an excellent performer at night, so will have to see how it will do in the daytime. Could see through bottom flap that the large electrolytic across power input was split open...

Stay tuned...
John


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 Post subject: Re: Black/chrome Philco T805-126 project...
PostPosted: Feb Thu 22, 2018 3:14 am 
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Tried radio after work today---excellent performer across band as expected, but with odd oscillations hopefully due to the open electrolytic. Found that my "handle-less" bronze/brown set had a near-perfect battery connector panel, so am going to install it into this set.

The only Ebay listing pic below along with one I took of the rusty center battery contacts...

John


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 Post subject: Re: Black/chrome Philco T805-126 project...
PostPosted: Feb Thu 22, 2018 5:25 am 
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Good that it works well. But you've got a bit of work to do there buddy!

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 Post subject: Re: Black/chrome Philco T805-126 project...
PostPosted: Feb Thu 22, 2018 5:42 am 
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A little vinegar oughta clean up those contacts. Nice looking set.


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 Post subject: Re: Black/chrome Philco T805-126 project...
PostPosted: Feb Thu 22, 2018 2:18 pm 
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Funny how the phrase “nearly new condition” can mean different things to different sellers! I am sure that once you have worked your magic on it, it really will be.


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 Post subject: Re: Black/chrome Philco T805-126 project...
PostPosted: Feb Fri 23, 2018 3:01 am 
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Thanks Guys !

Not fun to disassemble the front panel, but need to do it on this set for cleaning/polishing... Had hoped to leave together as I did with others, but it's in worse shape (pitting) than I thought...

Metzman---will probably use vinegar on it using stainless-steel "toothbrush", then wash thoroughly with dish-soap and water. This "contact panel" will go into the "handle-less" bronze/brown set since it's being kind enough to donate it's nearly pristine one for its "flashier brother"..

Hope to make progress this weekend, but am actually more enthused about the Zenith Royal 490 "orphan" that just arrived since it's easier to work with (and cost much less)...

John


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 Post subject: Re: Black/chrome Philco T805-126 project...
PostPosted: Feb Sun 25, 2018 4:27 pm 
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Hello All,

Got the front panel disassembled ready for cleaning & polishing (not fun) and the two original (bad) electrolytics pulled. They "pinched" the ends of component leads to keep them in place during the "drag soldering" ? process, so have to remove solder, clip off the end, and desolder again with Hakko...

Below are resized scans of the original documents that came with radio---if anyone would like the higher-res files, PM an e-mail address and I'll send them...

John


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 Post subject: Re: Black/chrome Philco T805-126 project...
PostPosted: Feb Mon 26, 2018 3:51 am 
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Got this slightly blemished beauty finished today !

Completely disassembled front panel for cleaning/polishing. Arranged the thread-cutting Palnuts on a piece of blue painters tape to keep them in place so they could be placed back onto same stud during reassembly... Thoroughly and carefully cleaned parts with toothbrush and dish-soap solution. Used soft cotton cloth scraps on the tuning dial "window"---it also had some scuffing/scratching, so polished very carefully with Novus-2 using Q-tips near the black lettering at bottom which was painted on outside surface to avoid damage. The lacquered panels at top right had some scuff marks at edges from earlier cleanings, so used Mothers California Gold carnauba wax and Q-tips to bring back shine. The top beveled chrome edge showed the worst (though minor) pitting and went over it a few times with Mothers automotive chrome polish which removed the film and staining and left only a few small patches of tiny "blisters"... Cleaned the leather with water dampened then dry cotton cloths carefully using damp Q-tips near stitching to avoid damage.

Replaced the two electrolytics caps on PCB---supply filter & AGC. Installed the good battery contact panel taken from a "spare" bronze/brown set with no handle. Had taken several "before" pics of panel backside from various angles so that I could "dress" the wiring properly during reassembly.

After all together, installed batteries and gave it a try---now worked great with outstanding performance and good sound. "Tweaking" the ANT trimmer made noticeable improvement. Compared it to the just-completed Zenith Royal 490 which is also an excellent performer and reception similar, but being late afternoon, my favorite low-power DX oldies station was beginning to fade in and out. You could hear the fading on the Zenith (with other weaker signals on same freq. in background), but the Philco held the signal rock-steady and it's dial tracking is still very precise all across band. Still prefer the sound quality of the Zenith, though... Am now listening to Big-Band Sunday Night on Zoomer 740...

Am again thankful on how well this set turned out both cosmetically and functionally---these are definitely super radios (and neat to look at) !

Project pics below in two posts---notice the one in 2nd posting with the sliding dial cover (neat feature !) closed...

John


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 Post subject: Re: Black/chrome Philco T805-126 project...
PostPosted: Feb Mon 26, 2018 3:56 am 
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Here are the remaining project pics---please see previous post for 1st group...

According to seller, this radio belonged to his Grandmother who had a dairy farm. It sat on a serving cart in her kitchen and she listened to the weather with it every morning... Neat to have that history ! The bronze/brown set belonged to its seller's husband who bought it in high-school...

John


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 Post subject: Re: Black/chrome Philco T805-126 project...
PostPosted: Feb Mon 26, 2018 4:15 am 
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Very nice. It doesn’t even look like the same radio!


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 Post subject: Re: Black/chrome Philco T805-126 project...
PostPosted: Feb Mon 26, 2018 4:26 am 
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Thanks Colin---it had a thin, dirty film on the chrome which probably came from years in a kitchen... Just sent message to seller asking location of Grandmother's farm so I could try and find it using historic aerial photography site.

John


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 Post subject: Re: Black/chrome Philco T805-126 project...
PostPosted: Feb Mon 26, 2018 2:19 pm 
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Looks like it just came out of the box! Nice work. I've noticed that these high sensitivity sets can pick up two stations in opposite directions on the same frequency at certain times of the day. During these times a less sensitive radio may actually be better for listening to certain stations.


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 Post subject: Re: Black/chrome Philco T805-126 project...
PostPosted: Feb Mon 26, 2018 5:52 pm 
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Thanks Metzman !

Played with it once more this morning (day off work) before placing in family room display cabinet---truly an outstanding older transistor radio !

Tuned across entire band to see what could be found during the late morning and was again surprised by its superior sensitivity/selectivity. Found a few DX stations adjacent to ones with stronger signals that came in clearly without any noticeable interference and inter-station noise level seemed much less that my other T805's. The Zenith Royal 705 came close performance-wise, but this Philco has obvious edge... And the sound is very good---just doesn't have the "richness" of the Zenith that I like, though some would probably prefer it...

Of course, the Panasonic RF-2200 outdoes it somewhat in sensitivity---but this T805 sure comes close !

Know that Matt has one (haven't heard from him lately) and wonder if anyone else here does and would comment on their experiences ?

John


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 Post subject: Re: Black/chrome Philco T805-126 project...
PostPosted: Mar Sat 10, 2018 1:54 am 
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Hello All,

Below is some correspondence from seller and a picture he took of a painting he has of his grandparents' farm where the radio came from in New Jersey. The personal background and story of his grandfather is very good and hope some here will appreciate it as much as I did... Printed the farm picture and am going to hang it above radio in family-room display case.

This one belonged to my grandmother on a dairy farm, when she used it to listen to the weather forecast each morning.

John, she kept the radio on a serving cart in the kitchen but I never had any photos taken in the kitchen. I did have some of the farmhouse, and some of her standing by yard features like an arch with a climbing rose, but I don't know where they are. Your question has revived my interest though so I will try to find them.

John, I got a nice photo of the farmhouse and outbuildings. Can you let me know your email address so I can send it? Thanks

John, here is the photo. Our farm was about a mile west of the US Rt 40 intersection with state road 45, on the right as you head toward Salem. The first floor windows on the right were the living room, on the left a spare room with mostly furniture stored in it. My room was at the back of the house, not visible in the photo. The kitchen entry is behind the evergreen tree, not really visible. The orange-ish building is the milk house, and there is a hay wagon next to the barn. The buildings on the right – we called them wagon houses – were for farm equipment and tractors. We produced 3000 lb of milk a day for as long as I can remember. My grandfather lost an arm at age 15 in a machine called a husker-shredder, but he was an amazing man. Until I was 14 he could milk a cow faster than I could. Think about what you can’t do with one hand – but he could plug in an extension cord, zip up a jacket, button his cuff using his teeth and his tongue, and many other things that I didn’t know were unusual until I got out into the world. I treasure his memory. He taught me many valuable life lessons, probably the most important was I never heard him say “I can’t do that, I only have one hand.”

The frame for the painting that I photographed is made from wood from a chicken house on the farm.


John


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 Post subject: Re: Black/chrome Philco T805-126 project...
PostPosted: Mar Sat 10, 2018 3:17 am 
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John,

Thanks for posting the picture and the correspondence. A great story.


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 Post subject: Re: Black/chrome Philco T805-126 project...
PostPosted: Apr Wed 11, 2018 2:53 am 
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Finally took a picture of the radio in family-room display cabinet with printout of seller's painting pic above---also sent a copy to seller...

John


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 Post subject: Re: Black/chrome Philco T805-126 project...
PostPosted: Apr Wed 11, 2018 12:51 pm 
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What a great display!


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 Post subject: Re: Black/chrome Philco T805-126 project...
PostPosted: Apr Thu 12, 2018 1:48 am 
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Thanks Colin !

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