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jrs
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Post subject: My transformer is burnt out right? Posted: Apr Fri 06, 2012 4:19 am |
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Joined: Sep Tue 28, 2010 4:13 am Posts: 732 Location: Hamilton, Ontario
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These are my readings with the HV leads disconnected from the rectifier. 
_________________ John
Every expert was once a beginner
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radiodale1
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Post subject: Re: My transformer is burnt out right? Posted: Apr Fri 06, 2012 5:00 am |
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BushRadio
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Post subject: Re: My transformer is burnt out right? Posted: Apr Fri 06, 2012 12:29 pm |
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Joined: Mar Mon 19, 2012 5:47 pm Posts: 36 Location: Sheffield, England.
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Jrs,
Are the connections marked Red the primary side of the transformer? Possibly a low voltage supply problem (11.4 volts seems quite low?).
Perhaps it might be worth considering a broken or defective connection to the transformer, blown fuse, defective switch etc. Another possibility to consider is checking the resistance value of the windings against that stated on the circuit diagram and allow, say, up to plus or minus 5%. If you remain suspicious there is a short on one or more of the transformer windings take a fairly close sniff at the (disconnected from all power sources) transformer to determine whether or not excessive heat has affected any of the resinous substances used in its manufacture – remember that heat is one of the largest killers of electronic components.
Just to mention, anecdotal - of course, I have experienced similar problems over the years and have dismantled and unpicked defective transformers, carefully noting the numbers of turns, wire gauges, etc – not recommended as it is a tedious operation, needless to mention, time consuming.
Best of luck my friend, BushRadio.
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BushRadio
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Post subject: Re: My transformer is burnt out right? Posted: Apr Fri 06, 2012 12:39 pm |
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Joined: Mar Mon 19, 2012 5:47 pm Posts: 36 Location: Sheffield, England.
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jrs,
Its me again! Is the transformer a 'step-up' type (Those that were incorporated into valve operated car radios)?
BushRadio.
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Sam T
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Post subject: Re: My transformer is burnt out right? Posted: Apr Fri 06, 2012 2:31 pm |
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Joined: Feb Sun 27, 2011 4:23 am Posts: 503 Location: Alabama Gulf Coast 36551
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This is an RCA model 128 console, right? Schematic here: http://www.nostalgiaair.org/Resources/737/M0014737.htmI'd suggest lifting the center tap wire (black & brown) from ground and then measuring brown to brown once more, should be around 400 ohms, the sum of the other two readings 171 + 194 -Sam T.
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Jack Shirley
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Post subject: Re: My transformer is burnt out right? Posted: Apr Fri 06, 2012 2:58 pm |
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Interesting that the 87 ohms is what you would get if the secondary had become paralleled (so to speak).
_________________ The beatings will continue until the morale improves
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Tube Radio
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Post subject: Re: My transformer is burnt out right? Posted: Apr Fri 06, 2012 4:52 pm |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 8053 Location: Warner Robins, GA
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try applying 120 Vac to the primary and then measuring the HV secondary.
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Norm Leal
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Post subject: Re: My transformer is burnt out right? Posted: Apr Fri 06, 2012 4:56 pm |
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Best to wire a lamp in series with the primary. If the secondary really reads 87 ohms, between ends, it may go up in smoke or blow a circuit breaker.
_________________ Norm
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Trent
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Post subject: Re: My transformer is burnt out right? Posted: Apr Fri 06, 2012 6:29 pm |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 629 Location: Kenosha, WI, US
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Quote: Interesting that the 87 ohms is what you would get if the secondary had become paralleled (so to speak). Hmmm. Good point. Calculates out to 91. Hard to see how you could get anything other than the sum of the two sides. 11.4 on primary is in the ballpark, though.
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jrs
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Post subject: Re: My transformer is burnt out right? Posted: Apr Fri 06, 2012 7:55 pm |
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Joined: Sep Tue 28, 2010 4:13 am Posts: 732 Location: Hamilton, Ontario
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Well I took it apart and it is done for! Black char and bad smell. I applied power to it to measure HV output and the highest I got was 20V before it started bubbling and gurgling I will have to add this to the list of parts to locate. I just can't seem to catch a break with these last two radios I have done. Oh yea and my wife has ZERO sympathy for me 
_________________ John
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Sam T
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Post subject: Re: My transformer is burnt out right? Posted: Apr Fri 06, 2012 9:33 pm |
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Joined: Feb Sun 27, 2011 4:23 am Posts: 503 Location: Alabama Gulf Coast 36551
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Must admit I chuckled at your misery John, sorry about that. Only because I've been there.
-Sam T.
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