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 Post subject: AK10 4700 restoration
PostPosted: Apr Fri 20, 2012 2:34 pm 
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Hello, friends.
Finally I have my first Atwater Kent Breadboard 10. I'm very happy to have this radio and appears to be in very good original condition.
I've been checking the audiotransformers and these are good. I did as directed by this forum post.

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My question is, is 2 meg ohm grid leak resistor within the same island of xfomers?
And, if so, how can I check the grid leak resistor without opening the pot?
Here you can see some pictures of my radio.
Thank you and grettings form Spain
Carlos

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 Post subject: Re: My first AK10 4700
PostPosted: Apr Fri 20, 2012 2:46 pm 
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The 2 meg resistor is in the "island" on the right- the three tube detector/amplifier. Just remove the four screws around the edge of the det/amp and the top will lift up slowly from the front. The resistor is soldered inside the top in a little glass sleeve; simply unsolder it and pull out the open element and replace it with a common resistor. There is a little piece of paper in the sleeve and it should stay there.

Usually both transformers are bad; the gentleman who makes the ARBEIII power supplies also sells replacement transformers that work very well. The original transformers are covered with lots of brittle tar which you will have to chip away. Generally I save the tar and remelt it, pouring it over the replacements; that has to be done in a disposable can heated slowly outdoors with a propane torch. You may just choose the chuck the tar.

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 Post subject: Re: My first AK10 4700
PostPosted: Apr Sat 21, 2012 3:25 pm 
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Where in the radio is this resistor?
I think it is open but I can not find
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 Post subject: Re: My first AK10 4700
PostPosted: Apr Sat 21, 2012 6:29 pm 
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I need to locate this resistor. But I do not see anywhere.

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 Post subject: Re: My first AK10 4700
PostPosted: Apr Sun 22, 2012 2:55 am 
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CarlosRadio wrote:
I need to locate this resistor. But I do not see anywhere.

In my 10b that resistor is under a potentiometer island.
See in the picture the flat resistor shown in the bottom. Yours may be under a component island in your set perhaps?

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 Post subject: Re: My first AK10 4700
PostPosted: Apr Sun 22, 2012 10:39 am 
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dneprrider wrote:
CarlosRadio wrote:
I need to locate this resistor. But I do not see anywhere.

In my 10b that resistor is under a potentiometer island.
See in the picture the flat resistor shown in the bottom. Yours may be under a component island in your set perhaps?

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Thank you, friend.
You have given me a clue. Finally l resistor was on the inside of one of the coils. Was open. I have changed and the radio works.
I was lucky because the audio transformers were good.
Thank you.

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 Post subject: Re: My first AK10 4700
PostPosted: Apr Tue 24, 2012 5:06 pm 
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Right. the first thing wrong with the radio is the grid leak resistor.
I proceed to open the island of detector / amplifier

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Fortunately, the two xformers have continuity! This is great news.

Here is the grid leak resistor
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Then I change the old resistor with a new 2 meg ohms resistor
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 Post subject: Re: My first AK10 4700
PostPosted: Apr Tue 24, 2012 9:16 pm 
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All right. There is another resistor open and, indeed, is housed within one of the coils. In this document we can see where is the resistor
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Then I put a new 600 ohms resistor
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 Post subject: Re: My first AK10 4700
PostPosted: Apr Tue 24, 2012 9:26 pm 
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Now everything is ready for the first test. I put the tubes and the Speaker Atwater Kent model "M".
I hope this works
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 Post subject: Re: AK10 4700 restoration
PostPosted: Apr Tue 24, 2012 9:45 pm 
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All right. I made the first test. Here's the video. It works. Although I have to find a good antenna. Any suggestions?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL5TaWs4ubI

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 Post subject: Re: AK10 4700 restoration
PostPosted: Apr Tue 24, 2012 10:56 pm 
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CarlosRadio wrote:
All right. I made the first test. Here's the video. It works. Although I have to find a good antenna. Any suggestions?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL5TaWs4ubI



I am very glad you have it working. It sounds very good. For my antenna I have been using a long wire strung outside my house as I have a very large back garden. I tried a small internal wire antenna on the floor connected to a home built transistor RF amplifier. It did work but not as well as the outside long antenna.


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 Post subject: Re: AK10 4700 restoration
PostPosted: Apr Wed 25, 2012 8:22 am 
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Thank you.
Finally, I opt for making an external antenna about 16 meters.

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 Post subject: Re: AK10 4700 restoration
PostPosted: Apr Thu 26, 2012 2:20 pm 
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Your radio sounds very nice.


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 Post subject: Re: AK10 4700 restoration
PostPosted: Apr Sun 29, 2012 11:54 am 
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The repair is now complete.
I filmed a new video in which you can see this radio playing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU16xI30Wvc

Thank you all.
Carlos

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 Post subject: Re: AK10 4700 restoration
PostPosted: Apr Mon 30, 2012 5:29 pm 
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This is the serial number of the radio: 38287

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