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Post subject: Grid Bias button cell replacements Posted: Jun Sat 30, 2012 11:35 pm |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 253 Location: Eureka, CA, USA
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Mine is long dead and needs replacing. Anyone out there developed a workable go-around? I don't want to re-invent the wheel.......... I can clip in a AAA cell and holder, but would rather use something button-like.
Thanks in advance.
_________________ Jim Falls K6FWT Eureka, CA
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chaz
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Post subject: Re: Grid Bias button cell replacements Posted: Jul Sun 01, 2012 12:06 am |
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Joined: Nov Mon 05, 2007 11:08 pm Posts: 1073 Location: Calgary Alberta
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Jim I have several Rogers radios and many of them hav bias cells .. What I have done is solder a 1.5 volt hearing aid battery in place and it seems to work for me.. I got the idea from others on the forum. Just make sure you get the polarity right,,the outside of the bias cell is negative..
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Norm Leal
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Post subject: Re: Grid Bias button cell replacements Posted: Jul Sun 01, 2012 1:13 am |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 28955 Location: Livermore, CA
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Jim
You could replace the bias cell but may not need it? Later radios did away with bias cells for some circuits. These circuits use a cap coupling to the tube with high value grid resistor. Best to have model number so a schematic can be viewed.
_________________ Norm
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radio-tuber
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Post subject: Re: Grid Bias button cell replacements Posted: Jul Sun 01, 2012 1:44 am |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 253 Location: Eureka, CA, USA
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This is the Silvertone farm set I got running last night (Home team won 9 to 1!) http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByMode ... 017342.pdfBeen experimenting - Seems to work OK with or w/o it. I jumped it w/ alligator clips - works OK. When I jump in a 1.2 VDC battery, the volume drops slightly but the background hash decreases (better signal/noise ratio?). Easier reception of SW signals. I cleaned up the battery and holder clip contacts and measured 0.8V on the cell (2/3 it's value when new in 1938). Slid it back into the holder. No major difference between that and the 1.2V battery jumped in. Maybe I'm trying to solve a problem that really isn't one..........? PS: I LIKE the hearing aid battery idea! Glad someone has done that successfully.
_________________ Jim Falls K6FWT Eureka, CA
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Oldbear
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Post subject: Re: Grid Bias button cell replacements Posted: Jul Sun 01, 2012 3:18 am |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 3785 Location: St. Louis, MO, USA
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Dave Wise
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Post subject: Re: Grid Bias button cell replacements Posted: Jul Wed 04, 2012 12:22 am |
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Joined: Feb Thu 08, 2007 12:36 am Posts: 1164 Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
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I rewired the circuit to add cathode bias, eliminating the cell. Can be done in some cases but not all.
Dave Wise
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Rich, W3HWJ
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Post subject: Re: Grid Bias button cell replacements Posted: Jul Wed 04, 2012 12:41 am |
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Joined: May Tue 30, 2006 4:46 pm Posts: 4805 Location: Santa Rosa, CA
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Most hearing aid batteries are zinc/air and not intended for long life. I use #13 in my H/A.
I would think a lithium coin cell is the best bet. You don't need 3.6V, but in my other systems (computer, ham transceiver, walkie-talkie), the memory batteries have lasted as long as 18 years.
Rich
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RepairTech
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Post subject: Re: Grid Bias button cell replacements Posted: Jul Wed 04, 2012 1:13 am |
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Joined: Jan Sun 24, 2010 7:59 am Posts: 6171 Location: Pro Tech, Philadelphia Pa.
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Vintage Dave wrote: I rewired the circuit to add cathode bias, eliminating the cell. Can be done in some cases but not all.
Dave Wise Correct.... cathode bias eliminates the need for a bias battery. Also, jump the cathode resistor with a 22uf cap to "steady" the bias voltage. I've been doing that trick for years now. Works for me!
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Peter Bertini
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Post subject: Re: Grid Bias button cell replacements Posted: Jul Wed 04, 2012 1:16 am |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 12208 Location: Somers, CT
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Rich, W3HWJ wrote: Most hearing aid batteries are zinc/air and not intended for long life. I use #13 in my H/A.
I would think a lithium coin cell is the best bet. You don't need 3.6V, but in my other systems (computer, ham transceiver, walkie-talkie), the memory batteries have lasted as long as 18 years.
Rich Exactly. Once the seal is removed, they will self deplete in weeks. Pete
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