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 Post subject: Philco 118 Cathedral Restoration
PostPosted: Jan Mon 18, 2016 12:33 am 
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Been busy and here's one uncommon Philco cathedral 118. Its a very big tombstone from 1934 I believe . Eleven Toober power house, didn't look like much when I got it at last Dallas auction convention, payed only $16 for it. The speaker will need a total rebuild and chassis will look very nice like the cabinet when I am done with it. I will post more on this radio soon :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: PHILCO 118 CATHEDRAL RESTORE
PostPosted: Jan Fri 22, 2016 2:34 am 
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Very nice. Did you use spray lacquer on the cabinet?

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 Post subject: Re: PHILCO 118 CATHEDRAL RESTORE
PostPosted: Jan Fri 22, 2016 2:47 am 
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And people say you can't turn a sows ear into a silk purse... obviously they have never seen your work Fred!

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 Post subject: Re: PHILCO 118 CATHEDRAL RESTORE
PostPosted: Jan Sat 23, 2016 11:58 pm 
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Beautiful job Fred ! I'm curious , in the one picture you show the black, (or extra dark walnut trim) "blown in" around the trim and thin accent areas without being masked off. In the after photo, it shows no trace of it on the finished wood. Did you sand it off ? or did you remove the over spray with lacquer thinner on a lightly dampened rag drawn flush across the surface ? Unless my eyes are playing tricks on me , I've never been able to make dark trim not get on the areas I don't want it without masking it off.
Thanks for the pictures
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 Post subject: Re: PHILCO 118 CATHEDRAL RESTORE
PostPosted: Jan Sun 24, 2016 2:54 am 
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Yes Tony it was sanded off then stain and toned. The lighter stain and toners wont really affect the black in the grooves. :D In that step what your seeing is the cabinet with grain filler on it, I smoothed the grooves with fine steel wool then spray painted those areas, let dry then sand with 240 to remove the grain filler on entire cabinet. :D That's just a quick way to do that , faster than doing it with paint brush.


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 Post subject: Re: PHILCO 118 CATHEDRAL RESTORE
PostPosted: Jan Tue 26, 2016 7:54 am 
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That is outstanding . It looks 100% original as it was new . It takes alot of work to that .


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 Post subject: Re: PHILCO 118 CATHEDRAL RESTORE
PostPosted: Jan Tue 26, 2016 6:21 pm 
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very very nice. Love the finish.I am new at refinishing. Is that lacquer and what did you do to get that sheen, sand paper,steel wool etc ?

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 Post subject: Re: PHILCO 118 CATHEDRAL RESTORE
PostPosted: Jan Thu 28, 2016 2:19 am 
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JoelHelms wrote:
very very nice. Love the finish.I am new at refinishing. Is that lacquer and what did you do to get that sheen, sand paper,steel wool etc ?

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Yes it's lacquer and its right out of the can. No sanding or steel wool, that part was done on the cabinet before staining and toning for my color.


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 Post subject: Re: PHILCO 118 CATHEDRAL RESTORE
PostPosted: Jan Thu 28, 2016 2:40 am 
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Beautiful job, Fred.

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 Post subject: Re: PHILCO 118 CATHEDRAL RESTORE
PostPosted: Jan Thu 28, 2016 2:58 am 
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Beautiful job, Fred.

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Thanks Norm :D


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 Post subject: Re: PHILCO 118 CATHEDRAL RESTORE
PostPosted: Jan Sat 30, 2016 7:45 pm 
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That is fantastic Fred. I love looking at all the radios you do . They always look so great. Anyone would love to own one of them.
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 Post subject: Re: PHILCO 118 CATHEDRAL RESTORE
PostPosted: Feb Tue 02, 2016 5:06 am 
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bruce47 wrote:
That is fantastic Fred. I love looking at all the radios you do . They always look so great. Anyone would love to own one of them.
Bruce

Thanks Bruce, I enjoy showing you guys how these antique radios can really look great when they can use some TLC.


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 Post subject: Re: Philco 118 Cathedral Restoration
PostPosted: Feb Wed 10, 2016 3:50 pm 
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Fred im starting a Philco 89 Cathedral. Where did you get a Philco decal or how did you do it. Your work looks great.


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 Post subject: Re: Philco 118 Cathedral Restoration
PostPosted: Feb Thu 11, 2016 2:47 am 
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Hugh C wrote:
Fred im starting a Philco 89 Cathedral. Where did you get a Philco decal or how did you do it. Your work looks great.

Radio Daze has them, apply decal before you apply the clear coat. If you cleared already without the decal on there go to a hobby shop and get some decal set stuff, its liquid and that will melt the decal into the clear so you don't see the edges of the decal. Hope that helps you .


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 Post subject: Re: Philco 118 Cathedral Restoration
PostPosted: Feb Sat 20, 2016 1:44 pm 
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I am getting closer to getting this big 118 cathedral playing again, I had sent the speaker out to get reconed at a local shop here in Dallas, got I back today and rewired it . Now I can concentrate on getting her playing again, everything is cleaned and painted. Painting the chassis I thought was the best bet because of all the rust that was on it. I had bead blasted the chassis and the paint will protect from further damage and it looks good also. The painting took some time to have it look good and the speaker got the same treatment , adding new wires also for the speaker, the old wires were coming apart and didn't want them shorting out. Sure will look great when finished, I did buy new rubber corner mounts for the chassis and now will be at the correct height when installed in the cabinet.


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 Post subject: Re: Philco 118 Cathedral Restoration
PostPosted: Feb Mon 29, 2016 3:10 am 
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THAT IS FINE WORK YOU DID.


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 Post subject: Re: Philco 118 Cathedral Restoration
PostPosted: Feb Mon 29, 2016 5:32 am 
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Thank you I appreciate that.


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 Post subject: Re: Philco 118 Cathedral Restoration
PostPosted: Mar Wed 02, 2016 4:45 pm 
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Beautiful job!

Just out of curiosity, what kind of grain filler do you use? I've tried Crystallac and Pore-o-Pac with moderate success, but I'm not getting the mirror flat surface that I'm really looking for.

I like the final sheen of your lacquer. Do you spray a gloss and then rub it down, or do you use a satin lacquer?

Thanks!

Roger


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 Post subject: Re: Philco 118 Cathedral Restoration
PostPosted: Mar Thu 03, 2016 4:43 am 
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Thanks for the kind words, the grain filler I use is from Mohawk and the clear is from Mohawk . I use a clear vinyl sealer from Mohawk then top coated with clear lacquer which is called Buffcoat clear from Mohawk , all which is sprayed on with HVLP spray gun. The buff coat clear there is no buffing involved , if you want a little more shine add a little high gloss clear lacquer to the buff coat clear which is lacquer as I mentioned. Hope this answers your questions.


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 Post subject: Re: Philco 118 Cathedral Restoration
PostPosted: Nov Wed 22, 2017 3:21 am 
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Fred,
Sorry to resurrect an old thread! I have a 118 that I am about to begin restoring. Regarding the lighter toned, raised side and middle areas of the cabinet face...are those a photo finish on the original? Reading this thread it looks like you used stain and toner exclusively. What did you use for color? I saw your comments about the lacquer finish, but no one asked about coloration specifically!

Thanks,
Bryan


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