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Dnitram
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Post subject: Save My Grill Cloth! Posted: Nov Sun 19, 2017 5:20 pm |
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Joined: Sep Wed 04, 2013 2:23 pm Posts: 647 Location: Atlanta, GA
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I know we’ve all been there… Cabinet needs refinishing, past the point of saving, but the grill cloth looks good, worth reusing. Typical cardboard stapled in (remove the staples) and guess what? The grill cloth is securely GLUED to the cabinet! You very carefully try to slowly peal it off and because of the glue and fragile nature of the cloth, it rips! Gone, no way of saving it, even with an iron on patch. Sad, very sad. Just lost that part of the originality.
Does anyone have a method they’ve been using to soften/release the glue so as to safely remove the original grill cloth for reuse? I imagine a LOT of us would be appreciative to know HOW you do it! Thanks!
_________________ Real Radios GLOW In The Dark Southeastern Antique Radio Society SARS 1991 www.sarsradio.com K4DLM
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Findm-Keepm
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Post subject: Re: Save My Grill Cloth! Posted: Nov Sun 19, 2017 6:29 pm |
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Joined: Sep Tue 30, 2014 6:08 am Posts: 2468 Location: The Old Dominion VA 23518
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I dunno what my old boss did, but in the 80s, he had a knack for getting the grille cloth off without loss. He said he used a tip from a dry cleaner, so presumably some chemical treatment was used. He sent the cabinets away for a restoration, and guarded his grille cloth as though it was bullion at Ft Knox. Ask a dry cleaner how to remove glue from fine fabric? 
_________________ Brian "Capacitor Cosmetologist since 1979" USN Retired 1984-2006 (Avionics/Cal)
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Kestas
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Post subject: Re: Save My Grill Cloth! Posted: Nov Mon 20, 2017 8:33 pm |
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Joined: Apr Wed 24, 2013 10:08 pm Posts: 964 Location: Highland, MI
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You may want to try pentane or heptane. I've used it to dissolve difficult adhesive in other applications.
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chaz
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Post subject: Re: Save My Grill Cloth! Posted: Nov Tue 21, 2017 1:15 am |
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Joined: Nov Mon 05, 2007 11:08 pm Posts: 2475 Location: Calgary Alberta
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On my rogers 10-12 grill cloth, I used 50% water AND 50% vinegar and used a cotton swab.. Just dab on the solution and let it sit for a while, until it loosens the glue and then it should peel off. you have to get the grill cloth and glue wet. Yours might have a different glue, but that worked for me. Dan in Calgary
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Dnitram
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Post subject: Re: Save My Grill Cloth! Posted: Nov Tue 21, 2017 3:45 pm |
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Joined: Sep Wed 04, 2013 2:23 pm Posts: 647 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Kestas wrote: You may want to try pentane or heptane. I've used it to dissolve difficult adhesive in other applications. Gee, I know I'm old, but I never heard of either of these, so I googled them... Not something you find at Walmart readily. Vinegar and water sounds reasonable. Seems to me that most of the glue I see uses is an awful a lot alike to the same glue used in the assembly of the cabinets, hide glue. I'll try the water/vinegar technique, but probably use a small brush to apply and hope that'll work. I've tried lacquer thinner, acetone, alcohol, etc. to no avail. The more glue the manufacturer slopped on the cabinet to hold the speaker cloth on, the harder it is to get off and the more damage the grill cloth sustains during removal 
_________________ Real Radios GLOW In The Dark Southeastern Antique Radio Society SARS 1991 www.sarsradio.com K4DLM
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Kestas
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Post subject: Re: Save My Grill Cloth! Posted: Nov Sun 26, 2017 1:16 am |
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I believe heptane is most easily available to the public as rubber cement glue thinner. One brand name is Bestine.
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Dnitram
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Post subject: Re: Save My Grill Cloth! Posted: Nov Tue 28, 2017 7:46 pm |
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Joined: Sep Wed 04, 2013 2:23 pm Posts: 647 Location: Atlanta, GA
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I ordered the Bestine from Amazon and look forward to giving it a try. Thanks!
David
_________________ Real Radios GLOW In The Dark Southeastern Antique Radio Society SARS 1991 www.sarsradio.com K4DLM
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CrumblingWires
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Post subject: Re: Save My Grill Cloth! Posted: Dec Mon 04, 2017 3:52 am |
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If veneer glues can be soften with an iron & damp towel... I suspect a heat gun might work on removing big pieces of cloth safely, if you can get at a test area from the rear of the set. I got the *musical note* pattern Scott cloth that is unobtainium, hole repair needed. This method is what I'm going to try on mine first. Good Luck with yours, Lloyd ______________________________________________________________________ Good Judgment Comes From- EXPERIENCE -Which Comes From Bad Judgment
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waltdavis777
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Post subject: Re: Save My Grill Cloth! Posted: Dec Fri 22, 2017 2:35 pm |
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Joined: May Tue 31, 2016 9:49 pm Posts: 241 Location: Mineral Wells, tx 76067
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Well as long as you are experimenting might as well try Xylene. I know it works on speaker cone glue. Although it might dissolve the glue AND the cloth. I dunno. wd
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