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 Post subject: How many turntable rotations after RCA RP-190 shut-off?
PostPosted: May Wed 16, 2012 4:14 pm 
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On my RCA Victor EY 7 circa 1955-57, I notice that the turntable rotates a couple of times after shut-off (with a full stack of 14 records), while on my older EY-3 circa 1950-52, the turntable stops after only about a quarter- or half-revolution. Is this just a difference between models or an indication that the spindle bearings need to be re-greased? Otherwise, performance is comparable in these units. BTW, the EY-3 has the Willie Bosco O-ring idler (which works great and fixed a slight flutter) while the other unit has a traditional idler (and a slight flutter...) Also, I was using white lithium grease on sliding metal parts and noticed that it turned yellow and got viscous, apparently due to heat build-up. So now I'm trying a red high-temp wheel bearing grease that resembles the old "Stay-Put." Any suggestions there?


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 Post subject: Re: How many turntable rotations after RCA RP-190 shut-off?
PostPosted: May Wed 16, 2012 4:22 pm 
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The platter inertia at shutoff is determined basically by the motor itself.
Another factor can be the grip of the idler wheel.

....it all depends on how WELL the changer has been serviced.

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PostPosted: May Wed 16, 2012 4:31 pm 
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Some Garrards actually have a brake that stops it immediately after shut off. You can tell by the little ping they make at the end.


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Some Garrards actually have a brake that stops it immediately after shut off. You can tell by the little ping they make at the end.


I've never seen a "brake" on a Garrard..... tell me which model, perhaps I never saw it yet.
And I've pretty much serviced them all.

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 Post subject: Re: How many turntable rotations after RCA RP-190 shut-off?
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I've never seen a "brake" on a Garrard..... tell me which model, perhaps I never saw it yet.
And I've pretty much serviced them all.


The RC121 is one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCBUCPZPXn0

"DING" Time to turn the records over.

Ken D.


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 Post subject: Re: How many turntable rotations after RCA RP-190 shut-off?
PostPosted: May Thu 17, 2012 2:32 am 
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That's the one I have and that's what it does. Maybe it's not meant as a brake,
what Ken said, a sound to tell you it's finished. It stops the platter quick though.


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Boy, oh boy, RepairTech...you are superbly knowledgable....but, boy are you snarky! :wink:

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Ken Doyle wrote:
RepairTech wrote:
I've never seen a "brake" on a Garrard..... tell me which model, perhaps I never saw it yet.
And I've pretty much serviced them all.


The RC121 is one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCBUCPZPXn0

"DING" Time to turn the records over.

Ken D.


Ahh, the RC121!
That's one I've never worked on.
The usual Garrard changers that come into my shop are a bit more "modern" - Lab series on up to the infamous Z-100 era.

That ding is annoying.

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Boy, oh boy, RepairTech...you are superbly knowledgable....but, boy are you snarky! :wink:


Superbly Knowledgeable, yes, yes I am.
But please, spell it correctly.

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RepairTech wrote:
MaryAntoinette wrote:
Boy, oh boy, RepairTech...you are superbly knowledgable....but, boy are you snarky! :wink:


Superbly Knowledgeable, yes, yes I am.
But please, spell it correctly.


Lol...I do know how to spell...typing on this nook is horrid...but, seriously...I do learn a lot from you & get a kick out of your sarcasm. Are you like this in real life or only on the forum? :wink:

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That ding is annoying.

That would be disconnected in about five seconds if I had one of those changers.

-David


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dberman51 wrote:
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That ding is annoying.

That would be disconnected in about five seconds if I had one of those changers.

-David


Anytime I've encountered one of those old "RC" critters, it gets tossed and replaced by something more refined.
They always have hardened, broken platter mats.
And I think they're ugly as sin. - the arm reminds me of a turd in a toilet. :shock:
I might have a few laying in a "parts" pile in the corner of the shop. :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: How many turntable rotations after RCA RP-190 shut-off?
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Your EY-7 has a rare condition known as spinitis. :lol: Don't let it bother you... just spin the 45s and watch the turntable turn. :wink:


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ggregg wrote:
Some Garrards actually have a brake that stops it immediately after shut off. You can tell by the little ping they make at the end.

That hammer on a school bell sound would be much less noticeable if the felt brake shoe was replaced. In other words his Garrard needs a brake job.

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 Post subject: Re: How many turntable rotations after RCA RP-190 shut-off?
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I have an OLD (1920 or so) Edison wind up Diamond Disc unit that has a little cork on a pawl that stops the table.

"SNARKY"--I like that. That just might stick.


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"SNARKY"--I like that. That just might stick.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0042121/
(Note who directed this puppet show.)

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I have no idea what a "nook" is, but, Mr.Repair Tech, sir, Mary spelled it correctly, while, unfortunately, YOU spelled it incorrectly. There is no "e" after the "g". "K-N-O-W-L-E-D-G-A-B-L-E". Knowledgable. I just looked it up to be certain. Sorry.....................GREG

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 Post subject: Re: How many turntable rotations after RCA RP-190 shut-off?
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I have no idea what a "nook" is, but, Mr.Repair Tech, sir, Mary spelled it correctly, while, unfortunately, YOU spelled it incorrectly. There is no "e" after the "g". "K-N-O-W-L-E-D-G-A-B-L-E". Knowledgable. I just looked it up to be certain. Sorry.....................GREG

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PostPosted: May Fri 18, 2012 6:36 am 
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According to my Webster's Dictionary, it's knowledgeable... A way to remember this is "If you're knowledgeable, your 'knowledge' will be 'able' to wow your friends!"

Hope this helps!
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