Forums :: Resources :: Features :: Photo Gallery :: Vintage Radio Shows :: Archives :: Books
Support This Site: Contributors :: Advertise


It is currently Feb Sat 25, 2017 12:57 am


All times are UTC [ DST ]





Post New Topic Post Reply  [ 45 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Fabulous Mint Zenith Console
PostPosted: Dec Sun 11, 2016 6:13 pm 
Member

Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am
Posts: 2409
Location: Haledon NJ USA
The best current production Cobra cartridges are supposedly the ones made in Europe, but they aren't cheap.

http://www.needles4jukeboxes.com/wurlitzer_needles.htm


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fabulous Mint Zenith Console
PostPosted: Dec Sun 11, 2016 10:48 pm 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Apr Wed 09, 2008 3:37 am
Posts: 14189
Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
Ken Doyle wrote:
The best current production Cobra cartridges are supposedly the ones made in Europe, but they aren't cheap.

http://www.needles4jukeboxes.com/wurlitzer_needles.htm


Ken, I lucked into finding a supplier for these Cobra cartridges, NOS, for $22 each. I just received a diamond Phanstiehl 1 mil cartridge for the console's changer. I now have two used ones for the bakelite set. Hopefully one will be good.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fabulous Mint Zenith Console
PostPosted: Dec Mon 12, 2016 1:42 am 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Apr Wed 09, 2008 3:37 am
Posts: 14189
Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
Old flocking now removed from the platter. I used a putty knife and the stuff just came right off. Then, went over the entire top and edges with rags dipped in lacquer thinner. It's now ready to be reflocked. I'm going to order a reflocking kit tonight. I'm going to reflock it in a dark wine color.


Attachments:
DSC00165.JPG
DSC00165.JPG [ 162.33 KiB | Viewed 523 times ]
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fabulous Mint Zenith Console
PostPosted: Dec Mon 12, 2016 7:55 am 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Apr Wed 09, 2008 3:37 am
Posts: 14189
Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
I finished the recap of the bakelite Zenith tonight, and I HAVE SOUND!!!!

The set sounds really good and loud on phono, but there's some squealing on AM radio on part of the dial. Think the IF cans and the antenna trimmer needs adjustments.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fabulous Mint Zenith Console
PostPosted: Dec Tue 13, 2016 5:54 pm 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Apr Wed 09, 2008 3:37 am
Posts: 14189
Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
The bakelite set's changer is all done except for flocking the platter. Yesterday I painted the back third of the motorboard after masking everything off. It turned out quite nice. This morning I waxed and buffed the plastic trim parts, including the tonearm and record support arm.


Attachments:
DSC00166.JPG
DSC00166.JPG [ 167.33 KiB | Viewed 485 times ]


Last edited by Larry H on Dec Wed 14, 2016 1:46 am, edited 1 time in total.
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fabulous Mint Zenith Console
PostPosted: Dec Tue 13, 2016 6:03 pm 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Jan Sun 06, 2008 3:28 am
Posts: 3808
Location: Richmond, VA
Excellent! Looks original.

_________________
Ed


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fabulous Mint Zenith Console
PostPosted: Dec Sat 17, 2016 3:34 am 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Apr Wed 09, 2008 3:37 am
Posts: 14189
Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
My flocking kit arrived today, and I got the bare platter re-flocked. Have to wait at least 24 hours to install it in the cabinet. The bakelite Zenith J664 is all done once the platter is installed. I am thrilled at how nice this radio-phonograph turned out.


Attachments:
15590562_1170037586383577_7317912923467959973_n.jpg
15590562_1170037586383577_7317912923467959973_n.jpg [ 110.73 KiB | Viewed 465 times ]
15541361_1170037773050225_8439744917756443997_n.jpg
15541361_1170037773050225_8439744917756443997_n.jpg [ 128.79 KiB | Viewed 465 times ]
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fabulous Mint Zenith Console
PostPosted: Dec Sat 17, 2016 4:41 am 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Jan Sun 06, 2008 3:28 am
Posts: 3808
Location: Richmond, VA
Wow! I am truly now inspired to try that on the ratty platter on the RP-198 that came in my 7-HFP -1. Great work!

_________________
Ed


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fabulous Mint Zenith Console
PostPosted: Dec Sat 17, 2016 12:53 pm 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Apr Wed 09, 2008 3:37 am
Posts: 14189
Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
Ed, flocking a platter is easy...a kid can do it. Here's the procedure:

First you remove the old flocking from the platter. I used a putty knife and got 95 percent of it off with that. Then, dip a rag in lacquer thinner and remove any remaining residue or old flocking on the platter, including the edge.........

Then buy a flocking kit from Flock It.com... I bought the rayon kit... $26, plus shipping. You get 3 oz. of flocking, an adhesive that contains paint the same color as the flocking, a brush, and an a two part mini-flocker tube......

All you do is quickly coat the platter with the adhesive, being sure you coat every place on it well. You have the flocking in the applicator tube and start flocking, walking around the box you have it in. Before you start, fill the spindle hole with some filler to keep the adhesive from running down inside the brass spindle bushing.

You continue to walk around the box and flock it for probably 10-15 minutes. When you think you have enough, add some more.... Then let it set and cure for 24-48 hours... then any excess can shake off ... or you can brush it off with a soft brush when it's ready to use. That's it. A kid can do it.

A friend of mine advised that I shake off the excess flocking after 24 hours, then set the platter aside and let it dry another 24 hours before using it, just to be on the safe side.


Attachments:
minifkitpg.png
minifkitpg.png [ 84.84 KiB | Viewed 455 times ]
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fabulous Mint Zenith Console
PostPosted: Dec Sat 17, 2016 1:34 pm 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Apr Wed 09, 2008 3:37 am
Posts: 14189
Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
Another problem arises with these flip-clips that Zenith and Collaro used for their changers. If you turn the flip clips to a vertical position, the springs fall off their posts. If you try placing the springs in their proper place on the plinth, it is difficult to line up the four posts. The springs keep falling out into the bottom of the cabinet if you don't line up the posts properly. What I did is to remove the clips, then I went to my local hardware store with one of the threaded mounting posts and a spring. I had the guy find me some nuts that would fit the thread, then go down inside the spring to secure it to the motorboard. I also bought four washers that were slightly larger than the upper small cone end of the spring. What you do is install a washer, then the spring, and then a nut, turning the nut all the way down until it tightens the spring permanently against the motorboard. Then, you can easily remove or reinstall the changer at any time in the future.

I installed the nuts inside the springs of all the Collaro changers in my Magnavox sets and kept the flip-clips in place. The Collaro's have longer posts than the Zeniths have, plus the clips are much easier to rotate. It is a PITA to rotate the clips on a Zenith, so I just did away with them. Had the posts been a half inch longer, I could have used a couple of the RCA pinch-clips to secure the changer to the motorboard. You actually don't need clips anyway on a record player that isn't portable, or on a console.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fabulous Mint Zenith Console
PostPosted: Dec Sat 17, 2016 3:19 pm 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Jan Sun 06, 2008 3:28 am
Posts: 3808
Location: Richmond, VA
Thanks for the instructions. I have archived them for future use!

_________________
Ed


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fabulous Mint Zenith Console
PostPosted: Dec Sat 17, 2016 11:58 pm 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Apr Wed 09, 2008 3:37 am
Posts: 14189
Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
It's done. I removed the platter from the box, and very few threads fell off, so evidently the glue took all the flocking I applied to the platter. It looks really nice in the cabinet. It's actually a couple shades darker than this picture shows it. Not bad for a 65 year old radio-phonograph.


Attachments:
DSC00175.JPG
DSC00175.JPG [ 156.01 KiB | Viewed 425 times ]
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fabulous Mint Zenith Console
PostPosted: Dec Sun 18, 2016 1:37 am 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Jan Sun 06, 2008 3:28 am
Posts: 3808
Location: Richmond, VA
Superb!

_________________
Ed


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fabulous Mint Zenith Console
PostPosted: Jan Fri 06, 2017 3:09 am 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Apr Wed 09, 2008 3:37 am
Posts: 14189
Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
I found another Zenith Cobra-matic, the highly desirable metal case model, on Craigslist in Austin, Texas. Had my son-in-law's mother to pick it up and ship it to me. It arrived today, and I spent over an hour just cleaning up the outside parts and the crud underneath the platter. This one is going to need its front metal speaker grill repainted, and the platter needs reflocking. I may repaint the metal case as well.


Attachments:
DSC00194.JPG
DSC00194.JPG [ 237.47 KiB | Viewed 280 times ]
DSC00196.JPG
DSC00196.JPG [ 239.43 KiB | Viewed 280 times ]
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fabulous Mint Zenith Console
PostPosted: Jan Tue 10, 2017 1:59 am 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Apr Wed 09, 2008 3:37 am
Posts: 14189
Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
The metal case Zenith Cobra-Matic is coming along rather nicely. Case and grill were repainted today. The camera thinks this case is red... it is actually a medium wine color.

Amplifier is finished, and amp and speaker reinstalled in the cabinet.

Platter for the changer is reflocked, and I am waiting on some new cartridges and a couple of idler wheels.


Attachments:
DSC00198.JPG
DSC00198.JPG [ 211.39 KiB | Viewed 240 times ]
DSC00201.JPG
DSC00201.JPG [ 169.75 KiB | Viewed 240 times ]
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fabulous Mint Zenith Console
PostPosted: Jan Tue 10, 2017 2:16 am 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Jan Sun 06, 2008 3:28 am
Posts: 3808
Location: Richmond, VA
Very nice! Great job on the paint and re-flocking.

_________________
Ed


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fabulous Mint Zenith Console
PostPosted: Jan Tue 10, 2017 2:22 am 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Apr Wed 09, 2008 3:37 am
Posts: 14189
Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
Ed Morris wrote:
Very nice! Great job on the paint and re-flocking.


Ed, this is the actual cabinet color.


Attachments:
6f660565-000d-4cb3-b544-60c2a3a14a21_1000.jpg
6f660565-000d-4cb3-b544-60c2a3a14a21_1000.jpg [ 30.81 KiB | Viewed 239 times ]
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fabulous Mint Zenith Console
PostPosted: Jan Tue 10, 2017 6:54 am 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Apr Wed 09, 2008 3:37 am
Posts: 14189
Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
I polished the plastic parts, installed the newly flocked platter, and set the changer on the cabinet for this picture. I still have to check continuity of wiring from cartridge connectors to RCA plug, install new cartridge, and install two new idlers (Zenith Cobra's use two idlers... one that runs against the motor shaft, and a vertical idler that runs on top of the large idler to achieve the variable speed control that these sets have.) Again, my camera thinks the cabinet is fire engine red.........lol


Attachments:
DSC00206.JPG
DSC00206.JPG [ 231.08 KiB | Viewed 234 times ]
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fabulous Mint Zenith Console
PostPosted: Jan Tue 10, 2017 4:08 pm 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Jan Sun 06, 2008 3:28 am
Posts: 3808
Location: Richmond, VA
Send it to me. I can reproduce the colors accurately... :roll:

_________________
Ed


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fabulous Mint Zenith Console
PostPosted: Jan Thu 12, 2017 12:29 am 
Member
User avatar

Joined: Apr Wed 09, 2008 3:37 am
Posts: 14189
Location: Little Rock, Arkansas
Ed Morris wrote:
Send it to me. I can reproduce the colors accurately... :roll:

Ed, I'll have to take that into consideration....lol


Top
 Profile  
 
Post New Topic Post Reply  [ 45 posts ]  Moderator: Alan Voorhees Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 6 guests



Search for:
Jump to:  




















Privacy Policy :: Powered by phpBB