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K9AF
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Post subject: 78 RPM records Posted: Mar Mon 13, 2006 3:47 am |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 595 Location: Terre Haute, IN USA
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I recently was made a present of a box of 78 rpm records. Some of them are recorded ONLY on one side, and are rather thick, compared to 'newer' 78 rpm records. Can anyone tell me WHEN record manufacturers began recording on BOTH sides of a record? Many thanks.<P>Jerry<P>------------------<BR>
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Matthew
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Post subject: 78 RPM records Posted: Mar Mon 13, 2006 4:46 am |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 2868 Location: Newfoundland , Newfoundland labrador , Canada
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the ones with one side recorded are demos , sometimes u can get a 45 that is flimsy and is recorded on the one side it is the same principle , i have a few of them one is of Johnny Cash <IMG SRC="http://antiqueradios.com/forums/biggrin.gif"><P>------------------<BR>Nothing Works Beter Then An Antique Radio...Well Maybe Two..or Three.<BR> <P> <A HREF="http://www.Radio-Years.tk/" TARGET=_blank>Radio-Years</A>
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Wayne Richardson
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Post subject: 78 RPM records Posted: Mar Mon 13, 2006 5:01 am |
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Jerry,<BR>Victor started both sides around approx 1907<P>I have a few with the Victor logo embossed on the "plain" side.<P>Not sure about other brands like the Little Wonder,Columbia, Emerson,et al.<P>Also have some of the newer singles like Matthew referrd to ranging from 78 to 45 rpm<BR>Put them on cereal boxes,magazine inserts and many other venues.Some have instructions to weight the 'record' with coins to help keep it from slipping on the turntable.<P><BR>Wayne<P>------------------<BR>
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Ken Doyle
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Post subject: 78 RPM records Posted: Mar Mon 13, 2006 7:55 am |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 1556 Location: Haledon NJ USA
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The last Victor/Victrola one-sided records were made until about 1923.<P>The ones with the fancy pattern on the back side are newer, usually an extra side in a multi record album set.<P>Columbia 2 sided discs came out in 1909, Victor later.<P>Ken D.<P>------------------<BR>
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OZ132HOME
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Post subject: 78 RPM records Posted: Mar Mon 13, 2006 10:52 pm |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 4820 Location: La Porte, IN, USA
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I have a few of those. They all seem to be later than 1909, though...<P>------------------<BR>OZ
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doug houston
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Post subject: 78 RPM records Posted: Mar Wed 15, 2006 5:51 am |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 5008 Location: Ortonville, Michigan
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Since Victor sold more records than anyone else, the one-siders are more plentiful. Many of the uninformed think that one sided reaords are like gold, but they aren't. <P>Victor and a few other companies were going along just nice, giving you only one selection on a disc, especially for the high ticket artists. I have heard that the D&R records wewre the first two-siders. The D&R Stood for:"Double and Reversable". I don't know if that's completely true, but as soon as somebody came out with 2 sided records, the big guys had to do the same thing. As said above, Victor finally succumbed in the eraly 20s, and went 2 sided across the board.<P>One other thing, though. I have 2 Victor acoustical 12 inch discs with white labels, and one sided. They are the two sides of a Victor record that had been discontinued. In the early twenties, Victor would press custom discs on special order, if the record was no longer available. These two one-siders had been special ordered records from the early twenties, I was able to learn. <P>I think that someone referred above to the Durium "Hit Of The Week" records, made on one side of plastic-coated cardboard. They have to be played with a weight keeping them flat enough to play. Thay are excellent sounding records now, 77 years later!<P>------------------<BR>
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Tim Tress
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Post subject: 78 RPM records Posted: Mar Sun 19, 2006 11:21 pm |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 5793 Location: Beaver Falls, PA. USA
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A LONG time ago, in the early 1970s, I had one of those "Hit Of The Week" records; "Little Girl" by Freddie Rich's Radio Orchestra. It's long gone, probably sold at a garage sale.<P>About 15 years ago, a record collector that I met showed me an LP that someone put out, with all of the "Hit Of The Week" cuts on it; the LP title was "Paper Hits". It sure would be nice to find a copy of that one! I don't know what label it was on. <P>Tim<P>------------------<BR>
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Brian McAllister
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Post subject: 78 RPM records Posted: Mar Mon 20, 2006 2:50 am |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 2560 Location: Sarasota FL USA
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Tim<BR> <A HREF="http://www.archeophone.com/product_info.php?products_id=61" TARGET=_blank>http://www.archeophone.com/product_info.php?products_id=61</A> <P>------------------<BR>Brian McAllister<BR>Sarasota FL<BR> <A HREF="http://oldtech.net" TARGET=_blank>http://oldtech.net</A>
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Tim Tress
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Post subject: 78 RPM records Posted: Mar Thu 23, 2006 6:37 am |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 5793 Location: Beaver Falls, PA. USA
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Wow! I had no idea that there were so many recordings on this label; these sound like appropriate music to play through a Philco 90 or Majestic 71...<P>Tim<P>------------------<BR>
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doug houston
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Post subject: 78 RPM records Posted: Mar Sun 26, 2006 6:49 am |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 5008 Location: Ortonville, Michigan
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I have an attraction to recordings that were made in the late twenties when electrical recording was getting going strong. They do sound good, played on the electric record players made in those days, particularly on the RCA-supplied Victor and Brunswick phonographs. <P>The down side of it is that the pickup heads weighed in at pounds, instead of ounces. So, since I keep my 78 collection in the basement, I have the cabinets for the big Victor and Brunswick sets stocked with duplicate records of what's downstairs. <P>------------------<BR>
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d_webber
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Post subject: 78 RPM records Posted: Mar Sun 26, 2006 8:22 am |
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"The down side of it is that the pickup heads weighed in at pounds, instead of ounces." _Would it be possible to ease record wear by adding a moderate counter-weight to the arm?<BR><P>------------------<BR><BR>gator
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doug houston
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Post subject: 78 RPM records Posted: Mar Wed 29, 2006 6:20 am |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 5008 Location: Ortonville, Michigan
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Yes, it is possible to fashion a counterweight on the old pickups. It's easy on the earlier Victor arms that were converted acoustical arms with the horseshoe pickup. But some arms are difficult. Each is a case of its own. <P>The RCA and Victor "inertia" arms of 1930 through about 1937 have counterweights on them, and the later models of even those have more counterweights. <P>My record collection is in cabinets in my basement, and those are played only with lightweight pickups. I have duplications of many that I've stocked the old Victor and Brunswick players with. They aren't played very much, so it all works out pretty well. <P>------------------<BR>
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tonup69
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Post subject: 78 RPM records Posted: Apr Tue 04, 2006 4:20 pm |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 26 Location: Memphis, TN
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In the early '70s or late 60's Rashaan Roland Kirk put out an album called "The case of the three sided dream". You guessed it, just three sides have music and side four is blank (but has grooves). When they made the CD version, they actually PLAYED the blank side and recorded it to CD. Very strange, guess they didn't get the joke.<P>LTR<P>------------------<BR>Larry Reiter<BR>Stuck in the '50s
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Mike Toon
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Post subject: 78 RPM records Posted: Apr Mon 10, 2006 10:49 pm |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 5937 Location: Burbank CA
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posted by tonup69:<BR>In the early '70s or late 60's Rashaan Roland Kirk put out an album called "The case of the three sided dream". <BR>___________________________________________<P>In the `70's I bought a Monty Python three sided record. One side has TWO starting grooves. <IMG SRC="http://jgmurphy.org/artwork/monty_python/matching_tie_handkerchief.jpg"> <BR>Monty Python Matching Tie and Handkerchief<BR>------------------<BR>-Mike Tôôn
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