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PostPosted: Mar Mon 13, 2006 6:16 am 
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Can anyone give me a complete list of those manufacturers that madeor make, the blank disks for recording 78's.<BR>Dan<P>------------------<BR>


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PostPosted: Mar Mon 13, 2006 8:54 am 
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Old Radioz wrote:
<font>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by panther:<BR><B>Can anyone give me a complete list of those manufacturers that madeor make, the blank disks for recording 78's.<BR>Dan<P></B><HR>
<P>Recordio, Philco, Gray, Sears and Roebuck, Soundcraft, Microlac, Presto and many more...<P>Syl<P>------------------<BR>


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PostPosted: Mar Mon 13, 2006 4:52 pm 
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"Audiodisc" seemed to be a popular brand. I've found more Audiodiscs (both NOS and recorded) than any of the other brands mentioned. I believe they subsequently made "Audiotape".<P>Dave<P>------------------<BR>


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PostPosted: Mar Mon 13, 2006 11:21 pm 
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Thanks, Syl and Dave;<BR>There is one morebrand not mentioned it has a two name title, and it seems one starts with a "W". Any ideas?<BR>The reason I ask is I have an Audar recorder, and I'm restoring a 78 RPM Seeburg Jukebox, and I want to keepit original, and stock it with records of my choice, and many are either too expensive or not availble. How many plays can you expect fromn a recorded disc ? Any Pros or Cons to my idea ?<BR>Dan<P>------------------<BR>


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PostPosted: Mar Tue 14, 2006 1:32 am 
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Webster-Chicago? They made recording wire (and wire recorders) but I can't say if they made record cutting disks.<P>There is a rumor that the surfaces of NOS recording blanks, after all these years, have become too hard for successful record cutting.<P>Dave<P>------------------<BR>


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PostPosted: Mar Tue 14, 2006 2:31 am 
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The company I'm thinking of is Wilcox something.<BR>Dan<P>------------------<BR>


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PostPosted: Mar Tue 14, 2006 2:35 am 
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Wilcox Gay? Is Webster Chicago same as Webcor?<P>------------------<BR>


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PostPosted: Mar Tue 14, 2006 2:51 am 
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Carl;<BR>Exactly, Wilcox-Gay, the "Gay" part is what had me confused. I live in California, how could I forget that ?<P>Dan<P>------------------<BR>


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PostPosted: Mar Tue 14, 2006 5:09 am 
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Brian McAllister wrote:
<font>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Carl Neidert:<BR><B>Is Webster Chicago same as Webcor?<P></B><HR>
<P>Yes<P>------------------<BR>Brian McAllister<BR>Sarasota FL<BR> <A HREF="http://oldtech.net" TARGET=_blank>http://oldtech.net</A>


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PostPosted: Mar Tue 14, 2006 7:08 am 
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fyi wilcox gay produced the famed recordio, (prolly why ive never seen one without both tonearms), and the company's height was during the 30s and 40s, i cant remember now but they sold out sometime in the 50s or 60s. They were located in my hometown of charlotte, mich! Our old courthouse (now museum) has several large sets made by them and they all seem to be very nice, they have one that is at a nearby antique store selling for 400 dollars and if i had that money i might consider it! They are very unique peices, nothing like the average mass produced stuff from philco,crosley, zenith etc. Real art deco beauties.<P>------------------<BR>


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PostPosted: Mar Fri 17, 2006 12:44 am 
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First on the recording disc issue. I believe that there are some acetate discs made yet, but I don't know by whom. Any blank discs you'll find today are too hardened from age to make a reasonable recording at all. If you try to cut even a good acetate disc and use it on a juke box, there are some, such as the Mills Do-Re-Mi, the disc will be good for possibly two plays (and I'm not trying to be funny, either!). The other thing is that the juke box changer needs a trip groove at the end of the record in the runout area, and there were very few of the best professional disc recorders that could cut an eccentric groove in a record. <P>Now, on Wilcox-Gay. They made a lot of radios during the thirties that were most mediocre, electronically, but very novel in styling. It was about 1940 that they brought out their "Recordio" line, and their prosperity reached a high point. they were one of the best home radios with the recording feature. Their cabinet design was very up with the times. I have a pre-war Recordio as a portable model without radio. there were other interesting portables after the war. Their little Recordio Junior is one that isn't their best creation!<P>Wilcox-Gay brought out more Recordio models after the war, and drifted into tape recording along with the tide. Business declined, and they were sold to, I believe, Philips, or some foreign company. Death came shortly after. <P>------------------<BR>


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PostPosted: Mar Fri 17, 2006 7:05 pm 
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Also many of if not all of the Recordio's used Crystal cutting cartridges which are like their playback counterparts-all deteriorated. Syl?<P>------------------<BR>Don Van Diepen


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PostPosted: Mar Sat 18, 2006 3:59 am 
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<font>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tubadon40:<BR><B>Also many of if not all of the Recordio's used Crystal cutting cartridges which are like their playback counterparts-all deteriorated. Syl?<P></B><HR>
<P>Yep.<P>Hard to restore properly as they need a much larger crystal.<P>Had a local customer rebuilt one somewhere else as I declined. Ended-up re-doing it anyway. I rebuilt one for myself. Took many tries and different crystals to make it right. Then I found a NOS still working like new, believe it or not !<P>Syl<P>------------------<BR>


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PostPosted: Mar Sun 19, 2006 1:06 am 
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Syl;<BR>What are the specs for the cutting cartridge.<BR>Dan<P>------------------<BR>


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PostPosted: Mar Sun 19, 2006 8:27 am 
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<font>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by panther:<BR><B>Syl;<BR>What are the specs for the cutting cartridge.<BR>Dan<P></B><HR>
<P><BR>The crystal ones ?<P>Contact me off list.<P>Syl<P>------------------<BR>


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