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keith49vj3
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Post subject: Anyone have plans for an AM transmitter? Posted: Sep Sat 17, 2011 10:21 pm |
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All, I've got lots of old AM radios scattered around the house and I'm thinking I'll build a low power AM transmitter so I can broadcast FM, ipod, CD's etc through the transmitter so it can be played by my AM radio's. I've seen plans on the internet but I'd like to build one that has decent audio quality. I only need to have a hundred feet or so of range. I've repaired lots of radios and test gear but I've never built anything before so any tips would greatly be appreciated. The Li'I 7 looks interesting http://antiqueradio.org/transmitter.htm and simple to build but I'm not sure what to expect for audio quality. I'd prefer to build something with tubes. Has anyone ever built the Li'I 7? Anyone have plans for a transmitter that has good audio quality? Thanks, Keith
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Mr. Detrola
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Post subject: Re: Anyone have plans for an AM transmitter? Posted: Sep Sat 17, 2011 10:24 pm |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 18347 Location: Detroit, MI USA
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That's not a good unit to build compared to others that are of more recent design.
The Homebrew section has many schematics for nice little transmitters that have already been built by the dozens. The ones using a 6888 or 6GY6 plus an additional tube or two work really well.
I'm sure that within a few minutes you will have links to the other discussions posted in reply to your inquiry.
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keith49vj3
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Post subject: Re: Anyone have plans for an AM transmitter? Posted: Sep Sat 17, 2011 10:35 pm |
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Joined: Nov Thu 22, 2007 11:31 pm Posts: 422 Location: Johnston, Iowa
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Thanks Dennis, I've never noticed that they was a homebrew forum. I'll try seaching the archives. Keith
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Daniel Hilderbrand
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Post subject: Re: Anyone have plans for an AM transmitter? Posted: Sep Sat 17, 2011 10:58 pm |
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keith49vj3
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Post subject: Re: Anyone have plans for an AM transmitter? Posted: Sep Sat 17, 2011 11:36 pm |
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Joined: Nov Thu 22, 2007 11:31 pm Posts: 422 Location: Johnston, Iowa
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Daniel, are you pleased with the audio quality? Keith
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Daniel Hilderbrand
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Post subject: Re: Anyone have plans for an AM transmitter? Posted: Sep Sun 18, 2011 1:24 am |
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35Z5
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Post subject: Re: Anyone have plans for an AM transmitter? Posted: Sep Sun 18, 2011 4:46 pm |
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http://antiqueradios.com/forums/viewtop ... =6888+6gy6I've been using the 12AU7/6GY6 version for over four years, it runs almost 24/7 and I'd est it has well over 15K hours at this point(made a post about it earlier this year)... I haven't found Norm's original 6888 schematic, search is nearly useless her on ARF as nothing is found before the last software upgrade... Edit Here you go, I sidestepped ARF's crap software and posted Norm's original design on my web space... If you don't have the 6888 tube it was also built using a 6LE8 that performs nicely... Also Bob Weaver recently posted a schematic on a one tube 6CQ8 Tx, It's just a bit lower here in Homebrew... http://members.cox.net/35z5/norm6888ps.jpgtom
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Rich K.
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Post subject: Re: Anyone have plans for an AM transmitter? Posted: Sep Tue 20, 2011 1:01 am |
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I got the transmitter kit that AES offers for Christmas several years ago. Only one tube, but it works OK.
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Blustar1
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Post subject: Re: Anyone have plans for an AM transmitter? Posted: Sep Tue 20, 2011 11:43 pm |
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Daniel Hilderbrand
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Post subject: Re: Anyone have plans for an AM transmitter? Posted: Sep Wed 21, 2011 1:43 am |
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Blustar1 wrote: http://www.electronixandmore.com/project/10.html
Above is a link to Norm Leal's 6AB4 & 6888 two tube AM transmitter. Refer to version 2 of the schematic. Yes, the audio quality of this one is exceptional. Thanks for posting
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Blustar1
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Post subject: Re: Anyone have plans for an AM transmitter? Posted: Sep Thu 22, 2011 2:02 am |
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If you should elect to build the 6AB4-6888 transmitter, you will want to purchase the Hammond 262E6 power transformer (not the Hammond 262D6 that was mentioned in the description) if you choose the alternate power supply version. The transformer is somewhat pricey (around $36.00 through Mouser Electronics), but at least it's made in the USA.
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Rich K.
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Post subject: Re: Anyone have plans for an AM transmitter? Posted: Sep Thu 22, 2011 2:11 am |
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This is the AES unit. Here is the description from their website; cost is $39.95 plus s&h: Quote: Kit - Wireless Transmitter Now your antique radio can play some of the same programs it did when it was new! With your cassette tape player, phonograph or high output microphone, this one tube transmitter becomes a miniature AM broadcasting station, patterned after the 1939 Zenith model S-7000 Wireless Record Player. Assemble on a 4 x 6 1/2" breadboard, all parts and instructions included. 2 lbs. 
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35Z5
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Post subject: Re: Anyone have plans for an AM transmitter? Posted: Sep Thu 22, 2011 2:35 am |
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Rich K. wrote: This is the AES unit. Sorry but the dual control units(6888, 6GY6, etc) we've built here on ARF, are in a different league than that phono osc, ancient pentagrid converters(6/12SA7, 6/12BE6 etc)will only modulate maybe 35% before distortion becomes a issue... The dual control tubes will modulate 95%+ cleanly... Tom
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Daniel Hilderbrand
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Post subject: Re: Anyone have plans for an AM transmitter? Posted: Sep Thu 22, 2011 2:39 am |
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fun to build these small projects , I just wanted a new style to build , have plenty transformers , probley will use another power supply box from a computor , unless can find a nother small radio chassis , seems I might have one more old emerson chassis could use
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Rich K.
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Post subject: Re: Anyone have plans for an AM transmitter? Posted: Sep Thu 22, 2011 2:52 am |
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35Z5 wrote: Rich K. wrote: This is the AES unit. Sorry but the dual control units(6888, 6GY6, etc) we've built here on ARF, are in a different league than that phono osc, ancient pentagrid converters(6/12SA7, 6/12BE6 etc)will only modulate maybe 35% before distortion becomes a issue... The dual control tubes will modulate 95%+ cleanly... Tom I guess each to their own. I got mine for Christmas (along with CD recordings of some old-time radio shows) a few years back, so the price was right, plus I enjoyed building it. Under what conditions do you get distortion? I haven't had that problem, but then again the only radio I have ever played it through is my 1936 Air King 21 - which is about as far from a hi-fi set as you can get (cheap, Depression-era TRF mini/kitchen radio).
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hergi
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Post subject: Re: Anyone have plans for an AM transmitter? Posted: Sep Thu 22, 2011 2:56 am |
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Start with something simple like this:  Cost was just scrounging a bit. No antenna or ground. The ferrite rod couples to radios a meter or so just fine. Sound is good. The parts can be reused for a tube 6LE8 or 6888 for more range. Eventually I'll stuff it in a smaller box but now it's modular so I can use the parts for other things. Doug
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35Z5
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Post subject: Re: Anyone have plans for an AM transmitter? Posted: Sep Thu 22, 2011 2:58 am |
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Daniel Hilderbrand wrote: fun to build these small projects , I just wanted a new style to build , have plenty transformers I have a screen modulated unit in development that uses three triodes and a beam power or power pentode for output... The idea was to build a mid/late 30s unit that uses all ST tubes... Lineup consists of a 6J5G, 6F8G(or two additional 6J5G) 6V6G or 6L6G and a 80 or 5Y3G rectifer, I'll post the schematic if you are interested... Tom
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Blustar1
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Post subject: Re: Anyone have plans for an AM transmitter? Posted: Sep Thu 22, 2011 3:00 am |
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Blustar1
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Post subject: Re: Anyone have plans for an AM transmitter? Posted: Sep Thu 22, 2011 3:03 am |
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I think that the next transmitter should include a tube rectifier (such as the one that you are making up).
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Daniel Hilderbrand
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Post subject: Re: Anyone have plans for an AM transmitter? Posted: Sep Thu 22, 2011 3:10 am |
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35Z5 wrote: Daniel Hilderbrand wrote: fun to build these small projects , I just wanted a new style to build , have plenty transformers I have a screen modulated unit in development that uses three triodes and a beam power or power pentode for output... The idea was to build a mid/late 30s unit that uses all ST tubes... Lineup consists of a 6J5G, 6F8G(or two additional 6J5G) 6V6G or 6L6G and a 80 or 5Y3G rectifer, I'll post the schematic if you are interested... Tom More Than interested
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