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 Post subject: Re: Problem With Grundig 1950's Tone Arm
PostPosted: Mar Sat 31, 2012 4:53 am 
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Troy - thanks - after seeing the video I have to agree with you - most likely the gear - but why does the arm go over correctly on 45 rpm records if it is the gear jamming - wouldn't the gear stick or jam on 45 rpm also? Seems the problem happens only when using 33rpm and not 45rpm - this is why I am scratching my head.


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 Post subject: Re: Problem With Grundig 1950's Tone Arm
PostPosted: Mar Sat 31, 2012 4:59 am 
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It could also be the little arm that moves down when you play 33s thats sticking.

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 Post subject: Re: Problem With Grundig 1950's Tone Arm
PostPosted: Mar Sat 31, 2012 5:00 am 
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troydog wrote:
I do not think the balance arm is the problem. You can test this easy by not using it at all. Put a 12 inch lp on the holder. Use your hand to hold the lp like the balance arm would and start the unit to auto.

I think but do not know this bsr table that good but if like there latter tables. Under the platter is a gear that would move the arm. I think the gear is jammed. In this video you can see this gear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2H9BZmsrjs


Edit I am wrong the gear on this is under the unit. Service guide here.
http://www.radio-workshop.co.uk/service/bsr-monarch.pdf


Troy, the issue with this BSR Monarch is most likely a gummed-up metal pin buried in the mechanism underneath.
Unless you know what to look for, (as us ahem, experienced techs do) this pin and it's function during the change cycle will baffle anyone - and thus create a never-ending thread (as mentioned in my previous post).

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 Post subject: Re: Problem With Grundig 1950's Tone Arm
PostPosted: Mar Sat 31, 2012 5:01 am 
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It could also be the little arm that moves down when you play 33s thats sticking.

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 Post subject: Re: Problem With Grundig 1950's Tone Arm
PostPosted: Mar Sat 31, 2012 12:21 pm 
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I think that, on 33, things move so slowly, that the little gremlin that moves the arm over to the record falls asleep out of boredom.
That is at least as good a theory as some others advanced.

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 Post subject: Re: Problem With Grundig 1950's Tone Arm
PostPosted: Mar Sat 31, 2012 1:59 pm 
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Thanks to all - with the repair manual - I should be able to figure this thing out.


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