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Dave Doughty
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Post subject: Re: Simple VFO for AM Transmitters Posted: Apr Wed 04, 2012 4:39 pm |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 13640 Location: Utica, NY 13502 (USA)
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I tested the $10 oscillator module and it worked as claimed. It had a little over 4 volts PP output using 3 AA cells in series to power it. It had enough stability so it would probably work as-is as a VFO for a homebrew AM transmitter but, once a desired frequency was found with the coarse adjustment pot, I would want to replace it with a fixed resistance for improved stability and just use the fine adjustment for tuning. The coarse adjustment is very "coarse". I was able to tune from 600 to 1600 kHz using only the fine adjustment.
My next test will be to see how it performs as a stand-alone transmitter. Like the XR2206 IC, I was able to send a decent carrier across the room with a 3' antenna attached to the output terminal. It was noted that attaching the antenna didn't affect the frequency.
Dave
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Sam T
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Post subject: Re: Simple VFO for AM Transmitters Posted: Apr Wed 04, 2012 5:21 pm |
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Joined: Feb Sun 27, 2011 4:23 am Posts: 501 Location: Alabama Gulf Coast 36551
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Any idea how much power these have? I say 'these' because you are looking at two options here.
FWIW I received the two XR chips but have to go get a 16-pin socket before I can do anything, and also ordered the module yesterday. So I'm following along here belatedly. I'm no engineer or designer but would love to be able to combine one of these oscillators with the MP3 player module, a final to the legal limit, a power supply, maybe an audio compressor, etc.
Keep us posted on your progress and findings please.
-Sam T.
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Dave Doughty
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Post subject: Re: Simple VFO for AM Transmitters Posted: Apr Wed 04, 2012 7:33 pm |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 13640 Location: Utica, NY 13502 (USA)
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I was able to modulate the module with a very simple test set-up. Using the external speaker jack and on my Sony ICF-5900W and an 1/8" phone plug, I sent the positive battery voltage for the module into the sleeve connection, through the Sony's output transformer secondary, and on to the module's power input taken from the speaker jack's tip connection. Then I tuned in an FM station on the Sony and received the module's AM signal on a Radio Shack Patrolman-9 radio which I found yesterday at a garage sale for $5.00. The results were surprisingly good with decent frequency response and adequate undistorted modulation. I didn't measure it but it seems like I could get about 75% modulation before clipping which would be expected because, after all, I was modulating the module's power supply.
So, it seems this module can be used as a cheap AM transmitter same as those self-contained crystal oscillator modules. The advantage is that it is frequency agile.
Dave
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Macrohenry
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Post subject: Re: Simple VFO for AM Transmitters Posted: Apr Thu 05, 2012 4:52 am |
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Sam T
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Post subject: Re: Simple VFO for AM Transmitters Posted: Apr Fri 06, 2012 11:45 pm |
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Got the XR2206 chip going, no luck modulating it yet though. Also tried to run it from a 9V battery and it wouldn't budge, it wants the full 12V. It will oscillate from 250 khz up to around 1.6 mhz. Sine wave output looks to be a little less than 3V P-P, square wave is much smaller. I'm a little concerned about frequency stability - it seems to track up and down within a range of 30 khz. Waiting on the sq wave module, that one should arrive next week. Sam T. Attachment:
XR-2206.jpg [ 114.71 KiB | Viewed 407 times ]
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Dave Doughty
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Post subject: Re: Simple VFO for AM Transmitters Posted: Apr Sat 07, 2012 1:45 pm |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 13640 Location: Utica, NY 13502 (USA)
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Easy wrote: Got the XR2206 chip going......I'm a little concerned about frequency stability - it seems to track up and down within a range of 30 khz. Are you saying that it drifts up and down that much all by itself? Mine drifted, too, but only about 1 kHz which I feel is still too much. I was going to try to tame it with parts value changes but I shifted my focus on the square wave module. Dave
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Sam T
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Post subject: Re: Simple VFO for AM Transmitters Posted: Apr Sat 07, 2012 3:15 pm |
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Joined: Feb Sun 27, 2011 4:23 am Posts: 501 Location: Alabama Gulf Coast 36551
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That was an error.. meant to say it drifts about 3 khz, not 30. I'm anxious to receive the pre-built module and will focus on that instead. -Sam T.
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35Z5
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Post subject: Re: Simple VFO for AM Transmitters Posted: May Tue 29, 2012 5:17 pm |
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Any additional findings on these VFOs??
Tom
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Ed Kraushar
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Post subject: Re: Simple VFO for AM Transmitters Posted: May Thu 31, 2012 12:49 am |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 2023 Location: Campbellford, Ontario, Canada.
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I was hoping for an update also. I have one of the units on the way from Hong Kong.
I would like information on how to use it on my 2 tube 6888 transmitters.
Ed.
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Peter Bertini
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Post subject: Re: Simple VFO for AM Transmitters Posted: Jun Fri 01, 2012 4:28 am |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 12202 Location: Somers, CT
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I ordered two a few months back after seeing Dave's post. I asked Norm about using them with his TX, and his only concern was that they might exhibit some FMing... but considering the oscillator is buffered by a digital dividers chain, I suspect that will provide enough buffering to keep that from happening. If I ever have time to breadboard one I'll post feedback here; but first I have to find the two tubes I had set aside for the project!
Pete
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