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 Post subject: Tube Tester Lore for the Novice
PostPosted: May Mon 07, 2012 12:20 pm 
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If you're getting into tube-type gear, sooner or later you'll want a tube tester. Fact is, you may eventually want more than one. Even if you're lucky (or blessed) enough to score the legendary TV-7 or the Hickok 752A, you'll likely arrive at wanting more than one tester.

Why? Mostly because of the variety of jobs you'll be using your tester(s) for. Checking a few tubes from a patient on your shop bench is one job. A quick triage on a bunch of used tubes you scored at the swap meet or hamfest is another matter. Selecting the best available tube from a dozen candidates in your stash is yet another matter.

Apart from all that, your tester may not be capable, for example, of grid emission or leakage tests, and you'd like to have one that could do such tests. It may be too old to handle the newer tubes, or too new to handle the older ones. And so it goes. Even if you have one of the big-leaguers like the TV-7 or 752A, you may get tired of wearing it out on jobs that could be performed adequately by simpler and less expensive units (and God knows the simpler ones are expensive enough these days! :evil: ).

You may have got far enough into the RCA Receiving Tube Manual to find these forbidding lines:

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"The tube tester...cannot be looked upon as a final authority in determining whether or not a tube is always satisfactory. Actual operating test in the equipment in which the tube is to be used will give the best possible indication of a tube's worth."


True enough. But on the other hand, nice work if you can get it. It's not always possible to plug newly-acquired tubes straight into a piece of gear, and when you're vetting a boxload of new arrivals from the hamfest or swap meet, you may not care to test them "live" anyhow, especially where rectifiers and power output tubes are concerned. You may damage the gear you're using as a tester, perhaps seriously, perhaps mortally!

So tube testers are more than worth having around. But what types are you looking at?

There are two basic kinds. The simpler one of the two is the emission tester; the more complicated one, the mutual conductance tester.

The emission tester tests the most important aspect of a tube's function, cathode emission. It is the "quick-and-dirty" tester, but it may serve as much as 80% of your needs. Those boxy drugstore and supermarket testers of yesteryear were emission testers. So were most of the testers you could buy as kits. If you walked into any radio-TV repair shop of that era, you'd almost certainly find a tester like this one on their bench:

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This is a Superior Instruments (SICO) model TW-11 tester from about 1957, simple and straightforward to set up and use. It will test for shorts, leakage, and even microphonics, with a magnetic headphone plugged into the service jack. It may or may not catch grid emission (that would show up as leakage), but it is still adequate for most jobs that don't require precision testing. Since it may be set up and used quickly, it's the ideal thing for vetting that boxload of new arrivals from the fest.

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This "bad-?-good" scale is typical of emission testers. Note that there is a supplementary "B" scale, meant for low-drain tubes (mostly detector diodes and battery tubes). Quality is read on a scale of 100% as ideal, although in practice, very few tubes will ever approach that 100% reading.

Now for the mutual conductance tester, which reads the best all-around measurement of a tube's usefulness as an amplifier, its mutual conductance, better known as transconductance.

Transconductance amounts to the change in plate current divided by the change in control grid voltage that causes the plate current change (the plate voltage being fixed at a desired value). The greater the transconductance of a tube, the greater the possible amplification.

Mutual conductance testers come in two flavors. One (the older type) is the "static" type. In this tester, a tube is set up under controlled operating conditions. A plate-current measurement is taken. The control grid bias is then changed, and a second plate-current measurement is taken. The difference between the two plate-current measurements is indicative of the tube's transconductance.

On the other hand is the more modern "dynamic" type. In this tester, the tube is tested under conditions approaching real life. It is set up in a fundamental amplifier circuit and fed an AC signal, most often from an AC transformer feed, but sometimes from a dedicated oscillator. The AC component of the plate current is measured to arrive at the tube's transconductance.

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This is a Weston 981 dynamic MC tester from 1954. You can instantly see that this tester requires more "setup" than the little SICO emission tester pictured above. It will check for leakage as well as shorts. It gets its test signal from a type 3A4 oscillator. Like the SICO, it is too old for Compactrons, Novars or Nuvistors, but both testers will handle subminiatures. The Weston will also handle acorn tubes.

Notice that on this Weston and the SICO as well, the 9-pin test socket has been replaced. If you do a high volume of testing, then get in the habit of using a "socket saver" adapter with your testers, especially with the miniature sockets, which tend to wear out IN A HURRY :shock: !

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The meter is scaled in micromhos, the unit of transconductance. Again, diodes/rectifiers have their own reading scale (since they receive a different kind of test, being incapable of amplification). VR tubes also have their own scale, measured in volts.

Many tubes would read off the transconductance scale on this meter if the tester did a "straight" reading. Instead, it often does a proportional reading, and you are instructed to multiply the resultant "X2," "X3" etc. Thus, a reading of 1200 with an "X3" instruction would amount to 3600 micromhos.

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This is a B&K 707 "Dynajet" hybrid tester from 1965. This tester was meant for the service shop bench and is very easily set up, compared to the Weston. It has an upper rank of "preset" sockets covering the types most likely to be encountered on the bench. These get transconductance tests. A lower rank of sockets and controls deal with other, less frequently encountered tubes, which get only emissions tests. Although it has no sockets for the old 4-5-6-7-pin tubes, it will handle Novars, Compactrons and Nuvistors.

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This tester, being a hybrid, uses the "bad-?-good" meter of straight emission testers, and doesn't give you any actual transconductance measurements. It does, however, have a grid emission scale.

Now for a reading from all three testers on the same tube, a weak 6F6G pulled from a recent "patient on the bench."

First the SICO, with a reading just over the threshold of "bad:"

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Then the Weston 981, showing a reading of roughly 620 against a designated rejection point of 830. With an instruction for "X2" reading, this translates out to an actual reading of 1240 micromhos (against the tester's specified rejection point of 1660). Against a designated (tube manual) new-tube value of 2500 to 2550 (depending on circuit), this reading translates to just under 50% of specified new-tube capacity.

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And now the B&K Dynajet, showing a reading roughly equivalent to that of the SICO.

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Although the three testers were in general agreement on this tube, you'll often get dissimilar readings from the same tube on different testers. However, there's nothing to worry about as long as the readings are in the same ballpark. Remember, the emissions tester gives a rough-and-ready reading, and the MC tester gives a more accurate one.

It is worth remembering that while mistakes on the tester "roll chart" and/or printed supplements are very rare, they do crop up from time to time. One of these three testers would go crazy whenever I tried to test a 6BQ5 according to the roll chart settings. I managed to get hold of later printed updates, and sure enough, corrected settings for the 6BQ5 were included. I tried these, and everything went OK. Be advised that it is ALWAYS worthwhile to pick up everything in print about your particular tester, supplemental tube data and calibration instructions above all.

It is also worth remembering that whenever testers have any line voltage adjustments (as many do), these have to be reconciled with existing AC line voltage in order to get accurate readings. Some testers have a compensating switch (the SICO, above, has a high-low switch), while others have a pot adjustment (as does the Weston 981 above).

Like any other piece of gear, testers need service from time to time. They have switches, pots and sockets that can get dirty; sockets can become worn and lose their grip, requiring replacement; they have internal parts such as transformers, tubes, resistors, caps, rectifiers etc. that can fail. You should periodically give your tester a parts checkup, prophylaxis and calibration, if you want to keep its readings honest.

It would be hard to pick one of these testers in an "if-I-could-keep-only-one" situation, for each of them is more useful than the others in different respects. The little SICO, for example, will check many older tubes that don't show up on the Weston and B&K specs, and it's very quick and handy when I have a lot of tubes to check fast. The Weston is slower to set up than either of the other testers, and it won't check the later tubes, but on the other hand, it gives me actual transconductance readings, and thus I prefer it for every job it can handle, while I have the B&K to handle newer tubes and special chores such as grid emission tests.

As you get farther and farther into the hobby, don't be surprised to find your work dividing itself among multiple testers in the same way...

Hope this helps and happy hobbying,

:wink: Larry

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 Post subject: Re: Tube Tester Lore for the Novice
PostPosted: May Mon 07, 2012 1:38 pm 
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Excellent document, Larry! Well done. I suspect that this will answer all of the tube tester questions posed by all levels of users and potential users.

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 Post subject: Re: Tube Tester Lore for the Novice
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Many thanks, Pete, and happy to oblige.

I'm hoping that other fellows will chime in here with photos and descriptions of their own particular testers, since so many different kinds are out there...

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In this case, the tests make the point I've believed for years. A good emissions tester will adequately test most tubes used in radios. There's no need to spend hundreds on a mutual conductance tester. The 6F6 that was tested probably still has a little life left in it, although I wouldn't sell it or put it in something to sell. FWIW, I have a Hickok 752, 600A, a Triplett 3480, and a Precision 800.


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 Post subject: Re: Tube Tester Lore for the Novice
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AuroraOldRadios wrote:
In this case, the tests make the point I've believed for years. A good emissions tester will adequately test most tubes used in radios. There's no need to spend hundreds on a mutual conductance tester. The 6F6 that was tested probably still has a little life left in it, although I wouldn't sell it or put it in something to sell. FWIW, I have a Hickok 752, 600A, a Triplett 3480, and a Precision 800.


Yes, an emission tester (the SICO) serves most of my needs too, but there have been many occasions when the Weston or the B&K saved my day.

Both of them were 1980's hamfest finds. I've had the SICO since my two-summer apprenticeship in the local TV-radio shop in junior high days (mid-1960's). The shop boss gave it to me, along with my first tube manual (1950 RCA RC-16) and several other books, all of which I still have.

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Initial presentation repaired. Major goof. :oops:

Wish I could catch everything on the first draft, but I usually need two or three more before I start to get loose... :mrgreen:

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Larry, cant thank you enough for the time and info you provided to make a murky chapter in antique radios a lot clearer. Its articles like this that keep me coming back here to try and soak up every morsel from the radio buffet. I am currently in the market for my first tube tester and can take solace in the fact that I know just a little bit more to aid in making my choice. Thanks again. :D

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I'm glad to oblige, BigBlue72, and happy that I could help. Good luck in locating a tester, and be patient about it.

If you can find a tester that's been refurbished (and if you can be sure that it has been), it may be worth a comparatively high price in terms of the hassle it will save you, not to speak of the price of fixing it up. Try to have it demonstrated for you, if you can, and try not to buy sight unseen. Buying any vintage electronic gear on the Bay, Craigslist etc. is a crapshoot, and price doesn't necessarily imply quality. There are a lot of greedbag sellers out there, and a lot more who are simply (and tragically) out of their depth. Either of them (wittingly or unwittingly) will offer outright junk at outrageous prices.

Your best chance may be in advertising on the Classifieds here. Keep us posted.

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I'm going to check out a Knight KG-600b tester on Thursday from an old radio guy I know in my area. Have bought many radios from him in the past and I trust his knowledge and integrity. He has never misrepresented anything to me in the past. He says its in brand new condition and works great for 100 dollars. So we will see.

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I'm looking at its picture in the 1969 Allied Radio catalog right now.

As a first tester, this KG-600B looks made to order, a well-designed emission tester, and it should be a very good deal at $100, in good condition. It was listed at $46.50 new in kit form (1969; it would cost up in the hundreds now). It's reported to check over 2300 tube types. It won't handle acorns and subminiatures (you'd need an older tester for those), but it looks like it will handle everything else. It certainly should handle any tube you'd come up with in ordinary antique radio, TV and audio work.

Good luck on Thursday!

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There's another good tube tester writeup at this website:

http://www.tone-lizard.com/Tube_Testers.html

and more here:

http://tubesound.com/category/tube-testers/

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Randy, the Tone Lizard guy, used to be a regular poster here.

If you're interested in tube testers, you might like the book "Tube Testers and Classic Electronic Test Gear" by Alan Douglas. He's been a great resource on this forum.

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bigblue72 wrote:
I'm going to check out a Knight KG-600b tester on Thursday from an old radio guy I know in my area. Have bought many radios from him in the past and I trust his knowledge and integrity. He has never misrepresented anything to me in the past. He says its in brand new condition and works great for 100 dollars. So we will see.


Let us know how it comes out!

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a very helpful read,thanks


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Happy to oblige, and welcome to the Forum.

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I'd have commented earlier but I've been tied up attending the annual Town Meeting for the past two nights. Good presentation. We can always learn new things from different viewpoints. A few minor items I noticed:

Static ("grid-shift") Gm testers were mainly from the 1920s.

Dynamic Gm testers may get their grid signal from an internal oscillator (as the Weston does) but more commonly they use 60Hz AC from a transformer winding.

The B&K 707 only checks Gm on the pre-wired sockets. The switched sockets get an emission test.


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Many thanks, Alan. I'll touch up the exposition (done).

I shouldn't have left out that part about the 707 being a hybrid. That had slipped me altogether, since I only use the thing to pinch-hit when I can't use either of the other two testers. Tom has a thread about the 707 that's current at the moment, and when I saw that, I should have realized that I left out something.

Many thanks again for catching that...

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Good post Larry,

I have two testers, a Hickok 533 and a Heath IT-17. Most of the gear I work on is pre 60s so the 533 is my first choice, and I only use the Heath for tubes beyond the era covered by the 533.

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These two photos show comparative data from random types and brands of testers, owned by ARF members, in a survey done 4 years ago. The data is from single pair of tubes that were shipped ARF'ers around the country during the summer of '08. Pretty interesting results I thought.

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Many thanks, Mike. That is a good-looking pair of testers and an interesting survey.

I was gone from 2006 to 2009 except for a few cameo appearances in 2007, so I missed that survey. I'd certainly like to take part in another one, if anyone's interested.

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