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Mike Toon
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Post subject: Norm's 6888 transmitter finished Posted: Nov Wed 15, 2006 3:59 am |
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I'm totally blown away by the performance of this transmitter. I followed Norm's schematic to a tee, and used one of my already wound toroid coils because space was at a minimum with this Blonder Tongue converter donor. It worked first try!
I had a 760kc crystal oscillator, but bought a 1000kc and 1228kc from Mouser. All are easy to peak with the var cap. My hat's off to you Norm. This sounds every bit as good as my 6BM8s and AMT3000 and a lot cheaper. Tomorrow I'll try different antennas. Oh yea, I have to lower the tube socket ¼", damn.
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Catfish
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Post subject: Posted: Nov Wed 15, 2006 4:03 am |
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Toad
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Post subject: Posted: Nov Wed 15, 2006 5:18 am |
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Great job. What were the part numbers for the crystals from mouser, i'm not sure what one to buy. Does any one have a tube for it they would be willing to part with? Thanks for the help, and great job.
Jeremy
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Mike Toon
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Post subject: Posted: Nov Wed 15, 2006 5:45 am |
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35Z5
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Post subject: Posted: Nov Wed 15, 2006 1:02 pm |
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Looks like you are getting good at these builds, nice job...
Mike where did you get the 760KHz osc??? We have locals on 1010 , 1230 and 1600, so till I find something other than the std osc I'm doubting I could use one of these xmitts... BTW 760 is the frequency I use on my 6AQ5 xmitt...
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Norm Leal
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Post subject: Posted: Nov Wed 15, 2006 3:54 pm |
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Hi Mike
You did a great job. Even like your perf board mounting of the transformer. Mine have been below chassis but looks good on top.
Like your idea of using different frequency oscillators. 1000 KHz is easier to find but it would be a problem in Wahington and Illinois. Both of these areas have clear channel stations on this frequency.
I can mail a 6888 tube early next week to anyone interested in building this circuit. Will be away the rest of this week. I will show one of these transmitters at the SCARS meet in Carlsbad, CA later this week.
_________________ Norm
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m82a1pa
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Post subject: Posted: Nov Wed 15, 2006 5:00 pm |
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What's the small toroid looking coil in back of the variable cap? Is it commercial? I'm guessing that the variable cap is not in the circuit, since it's crystal controlled. A fair number of these transmitters lend themselves to the UHF enclosures. Would there be a way to use the variable cap to change the transmitting frequency? I'm long on soldering but short on theory.
_________________ Mort Denison
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Curt Reed
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Post subject: Posted: Nov Wed 15, 2006 5:06 pm |
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You need the variable capacitor to tune the circuit, which consists of the toroid and the capacitor to resonance with the crystal.
Curt
_________________ Curt, N7AH
(Connoisseur of the cold 807) CW forever!
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Toad
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Post subject: Posted: Nov Wed 15, 2006 5:24 pm |
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Hi norm, Would you please send me a 6888. I'll send a PM after lunh when i have a little more time, thanks for the offer.
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Is there any other more common tubes that could be substituted otherwise?
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Mike Toon
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Post subject: Posted: Nov Wed 15, 2006 5:26 pm |
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35Z5 wrote: Mike where did you get the 760KHz osc??? We have locals on 1010 , 1230 and 1600, so till I find something other than the std osc I'm doubting I could use one of these xmitts... BTW 760 is the frequency I use on my 6AQ5 xmitt...
Actually it's 780KHz, my error. I found a box full at All Electronics, a buck each. I know the 1.228KHz (Mouser) is a little off freq but even the digital radios seem to tune ok.
The schematic calls for a tuning coil and var cap. I used what I had that would fit. I really liked the idea of using an AA5 antenna. In fact I was going to use a small bakelite radio for this transmitter. It wouldn't look out of place.
What I'm really surprised about is the volume. Because there is no internal amplifier stage, the audio transformer turned backwards gives it the boost and the earphone (not line out) output of the CD player adjusts the gain. Part of the simplicity of Norm's design:!:
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35Z5
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Post subject: Posted: Nov Wed 15, 2006 5:35 pm |
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tubbytwo wrote: 35Z5 wrote: Mike where did you get the 760KHz osc??? We have locals on 1010 , 1230 and 1600, so till I find something other than the std osc I'm doubting I could use one of these xmitts... BTW 760 is the frequency I use on my 6AQ5 xmitt...
Actually it's 780KHz, my error.
DAMN.... We have a local on 790 as well... Can't win, I give up... 
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DXer
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Post subject: Posted: Nov Thu 16, 2006 1:20 am |
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Norm,
I too would like to take advantage of your 6888 tube offer. Looks like a great quick project. PM on the way. Thanks in advance.
73's
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Norm Leal
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Post subject: Posted: Nov Thu 16, 2006 3:25 am |
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Hi
I received requests for 6888 tubes. I'll mail them out early next week. Will be away for a couple days.
_________________ Norm
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bill hamre
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Post subject: Posted: Nov Sat 25, 2006 10:59 pm |
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used full sized oscillators because they plug in to 14 pin DIP sockets.
The 1mHZ (1000kHZ is http://www.mouser.com/search/P ... 0-TCF100-X
by mike toon
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I'm about to gather parts for a 6888 and the osc above is $1.50 with $6 shipping. I'm wondering would it make sense for me to buy qty of 10 then resell them to others one at a time at cost or not? AND perhaps likewise with the F-82-61 toroid.
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Norm Leal
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Post subject: Posted: Nov Sat 25, 2006 11:18 pm |
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Bill
There should be enough people needing crystal oscillators. I mailed off more than twice that many tubes. Crystal oscillators weigh little & can be mailed with a single stamp.
_________________ Norm
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duked
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Post subject: Posted: Nov Sat 25, 2006 11:38 pm |
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im very interested i wouild like a tube too norm
_________________ "it's a record not a musical frisbee."
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Norm Leal
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Post subject: Posted: Nov Sat 25, 2006 11:45 pm |
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Anyone still wanting to build one of these transmitters send a PM with your mailing address. I'll send a 6888 tube. Prefer to have address arranged so I can cut and tape it on a mailer.
_________________ Norm
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Mike Toon
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Post subject: Posted: Nov Sun 26, 2006 1:18 am |
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bill hamre wrote: I'm about to gather parts for a 6888 and the osc above is $1.50 with $6 shipping. I'm wondering would it make sense for me to buy qty of 10 then resell them to others one at a time at cost or not? AND perhaps likewise with the F-82-61 toroid.
Bill, that sounds like the thing to do. The parts not in peoples junk box might be the crystal oscillator, 5.1V zener diode and toroid.
The coil can be almost anything. I tried a solenoid, spiderweb and even an AA5 antenna. I settled on the toroid because it's not affected by the metal chassis I had it mounted inside.
I also used the little audio transformer from Radio Shack ($3) because it's small, although Norm says almost any audio transformer will work. Connected backwards of course.
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index ... 2103254&cp
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Ed Jacobs
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Post subject: Posted: Nov Sun 26, 2006 5:21 am |
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Hi Norm, I just got a look at the transmitter on another thread and I sure would like a copy of the schematic.
Ed
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Norm Leal
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Post subject: Posted: Nov Sun 26, 2006 5:34 am |
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