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 Post subject: Jasco Paste Wood Filler Question
PostPosted: Jan Tue 24, 2006 10:38 pm 
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I bought a can yesterday, last one on the bottom shelf at OSH. (Orchard Supply) The "oil" had come to the top so I mixed it thoroughly and put a couple skim coats on test pieces. As per directions, I removed excess with burlap.<P> Let it "harden" overnight, and today it's still soft and I could actually roll it off with a finger. I think it's supposed to harden so it can be sanded, right? This is my first try with grain filler and I'm not impressed. <P>------------------<BR>-Mike Toon


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 Post subject: Jasco Paste Wood Filler Question
PostPosted: Jan Tue 24, 2006 10:46 pm 
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I haven't used Jasco. Bartleys, which I have been using for years, can set up as quickly as 5 minutes depending on the temperature you use it in. At this point it can be difficult to remove, and you could probably sand it within another hour or two (I usually wait overnight).<P>I would say something is wrong with what you bought.<P>Peter<P><P>------------------<BR><UL TYPE=SQUARE> <BR><LI> <A HREF="http://www.plasticradios.com" TARGET=_blank>http://www.plasticradios.com</A><BR><LI> <A HREF="http://airchiefradios.com" TARGET=_blank>http://airchiefradios.com</A><BR></UL>


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 Post subject: Jasco Paste Wood Filler Question
PostPosted: Jan Tue 24, 2006 11:23 pm 
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Ditto with Peter for the Constantine's Paste Filler...dunno how it compares to your brand which I've never used.<P>The surface is dry enough for light sanding in a couple of hours - but - by then I have removed all the bulk with plastic scraper/burlap/etc and there's really not any left on the surface to tell if it is still soft! In fact, I rarely have to do any sanding at all.<P>-Bill<BR><P>------------------<BR><A HREF="http://www.sparkbench.com/homebrew/homebrew.html" TARGET=_blank>The Sparkbench</A>


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 Post subject: Jasco Paste Wood Filler Question
PostPosted: Jan Wed 25, 2006 2:49 am 
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Speaking of Bartley's. Does anyone know of any Canadian suppliers, preferably in southern Ontario. I found one is Saskatchewan, but shipping is expensive. Alternatively are there any other brands recommended that are not mail order. I used a product called Wood-Kote and it is either crap or I don't know what I'm doing.<P>------------------<BR> <A HREF="http://ca.geocities.com/rogersmajestic@rogers.com/radios.html" TARGET=_blank>http://ca.geocities.com/rogersmajestic@rogers.com/radios.html</A>


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 Post subject: Jasco Paste Wood Filler Question
PostPosted: Jan Wed 25, 2006 7:26 am 
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Back to the subject of JASCO brand "Paste Wood Filler", I have used this product for several years with very good success, never had any problem with it hardening properly. Don't condemn the product itself; I think Peter must be right here, something is wrong with the particular can which you bought. I suspect that if you were to contact the Jasco Chemical Corp. (their California address is shown on the can) they would either send you a new can or refund your purchase price. It is a good quality product, and has performed well for me with both lacquer and alkyd topcoats. <P>------------------<BR>Poston


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 Post subject: Jasco Paste Wood Filler Question
PostPosted: Jan Wed 25, 2006 9:03 pm 
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tubbytwo wrote:
<font>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Poston Drake:<BR><B> something is wrong with the particular can which you bought. I suspect that if you were to contact the Jasco Chemical Corp. (their California address is shown on the can) they would either send you a new can or refund your purchase price. <P></B><HR>
<BR>Jasco says they have dicontinued this product and to take it back where I bought it. No help at all. <IMG SRC="http://antiqueradios.com/forums/rolleyes.gif"><P> I should have used Spackle. <IMG SRC="http://antiqueradios.com/forums/eek.gif"><BR><P>------------------<BR>-Mike Toon


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 Post subject: Jasco Paste Wood Filler Question
PostPosted: Jan Thu 26, 2006 12:50 am 
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Hi Mike,<P>Sorry for the bad advice. Also sorry to hear that Jasco has discontinued their "Paste Wood Filler".<P>In addition to some of the other good products which have been recommended above, I have also had excellent results with Benjamin Moore "Paste Wood Filler", available in quart cans at their retail paint stores. <P>------------------<BR>Poston


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 Post subject: Jasco Paste Wood Filler Question
PostPosted: Jan Thu 26, 2006 5:18 pm 
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Interesting comments here. I used some Benjamin Moore filler that I tinted with Minwax stain. It "dried" within an hour but it didn't feel hard enough to sand the surface for 1-2 days. I was wondering if I didn't do it right or if Bartley's is that much better? <P>------------------<BR>


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 Post subject: Jasco Paste Wood Filler Question
PostPosted: Jan Thu 26, 2006 6:06 pm 
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Dave,<P>Reducing any of the paste wood fillers which I have used with an oil stain like Minwax will retard the drying time. You get the same effect with oil stain alone, when a single heavy layer is applied to the surface and not wiped off; it will sometimes take days to dry.<P>The best way to tint wood fillers is with a universal colorant, then thin with mineral spirits if necessary. But since most of us do not have access to universal colorants, using oil stain is more convenient.<P>------------------<BR>Poston


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 Post subject: Jasco Paste Wood Filler Question
PostPosted: Jan Fri 27, 2006 7:32 am 
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Mike, et al...<P>As Poston says, the best way to adjust the color of paste wood filler is with universal colorants otherwise known as UTC oils (Universal Tinting Color) which can be purchased in either small squeeze tubes at hobby/art supply outlets or in cans from a commercial paint supplier...Some recommended colors are Burnt Umber, VanDyke Brown, Raw Sienna, Burnt Sienna, Deep Orange, Venetian Red and Lamp Black...Each color can be used alone or in combination to not only change the color of your paste filler but can be used to adjust the color of off-the-shelf oil stains and to make glazing mediums.<P>Each color is highly concentrated so a little goes a long way...Typically, I purchase UTC's made by Schefield Oils in 8 oz. cans and some of the lesser used colors last for several years in such quantity. <P>I know some folks familiar with this forum may be tired of seeing my recommendation for the use of VMP naphtha when and where mineral spirits is called for but an excellent use is in combination with the paste wood filler and UTC oil color adjustment...The naphtha will not only thin the paste filler to a desirable viscosity (mayonnaise is perhaps a good comparison) but will aid in the evaporation of the oil and solvent solution, leaving behind the binder and "clay" to harden faster after the excess has been scraped and wiped away.<P>FWIW<P>Bruce<BR>WC5CW<P>------------------<BR>


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 Post subject: Jasco Paste Wood Filler Question
PostPosted: Jan Sat 28, 2006 9:15 pm 
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Hmm .. Jasco is the only one i find local . I have had no trouble with it . It is important to color it before use . <BR>My first time i didnt color it and it looked great till i took the finished piece into brite light .. every grain was light colored ! <P>Getting this grain filler towork right is always a job in itself . <P>------------------<BR>


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 Post subject: Jasco Paste Wood Filler Question
PostPosted: Jan Sat 28, 2006 11:16 pm 
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tubbytwo wrote:
<font>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ken G:<BR><B>Hmm .. Jasco is the only one i find local . I have had no trouble with it . It is important to color it before use . <BR>My first time i didnt color it and it looked great till i took the finished piece into brite light .. every grain was light colored ! <P><BR></B><HR>
<BR>Well it's been several days and my test pieces are not what I would call sandable. Still soft. I colorized some with stain AND added naptha and that helped. Looks better too.<BR><P>------------------<BR>-Mike Toon


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