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PostPosted: Oct Tue 26, 2010 6:58 am 
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Dale!

You'd need three buddies and an octopus to run that set!

Love those duo-laterals! One for antenna tuning, two for the oscillator, and a pair for the IF Input!

A Tropadyne has to take second place to that MONSTER....

Rick



Naaaaa, two should do it Rick - - - some of ORS and Mongo's relatives maybe:

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I believe the three dialer set posted by Dale is from Argentina, i saw that set before, in the collection of Carlos
Benitez , from Bahia BLanca, Buenos Aires, on his web are some pics of this monster:
http://www.radiosantiguas.4t.com/
Is some kind of superheterodyne circuit with some modifications, huge set for sure...



Sure looks like it. Thanks Orduna. I remember the pictures being sent to me by a third party but I'm not sure if I
knew where they originated.
Thanks too for the link to the site with the photos - - the gentleman has some neat stuff and some nice receivers.

The more I look at the photos though, the more I am inclined to think the set could be some version (homebrew perhaps) of
the Tropadyne circuit.


I like your new Superhet too - - unusual layout, and more than worth it's weight in the seldom-seen Remler parts - - - nice catch.
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I love that three-dial set owned by Carlos Benitez.

It seems to me that it should be a nine-tube set (if in fact the last set of duo-lateral coils comprise the IF input filter - making five IF transformers total). A normal eight-tube superhet only has four IF transformers.

I'd sure like to examine that set in more detail!

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For Orduna and those interested,

Your radio was introduced by Gerald M. Best and Remler in January 1925. It's the "Improved" model, according to Best.

Rick

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Rick!!! so many thanks for the pics!! i have a lot of work to do with my set, i will try to let closer to the pics, a lot of wires must be straightened, i have so many nights of work....


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Rick, the panel of mine is made of some kind of wood, looks like repwood painted black, i wonder if this kind of panels are common in this radios...


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Orduna,

Those variable condensers were not cheap in 1925. Don't need to tell you to be careful of the pot metal gears on the back. They can crumble!

Most here would agree front panels were Bakelite or hard rubber.

But, if I had limited funds when it came to building a Superhet, I'd paint a piece of wood any day! :P

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Don't know if a WE 1924 superhet's been posted here yet. Maybe others have more pics of this model (standard super style - long case with 2 offset dials). Please disregard if already posted.
http://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/resu ... imagepos=1
http://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/resu ... e=10251508


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That would be the British 4A? (drool)

Here's the British version of the later series:

http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/western_44004.html

And of course there was a Canadian version too, the Northern Electric R4.

http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/northernel_r4.html

Was there an Australian affiliate of Western Electric? (Southern Electric?)


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Was there an Australian affiliate of Western Electric? (Southern Electric?)


Don't know of one Alan (not an expert). I know AWA made RCA stuff. (If I recall correctly) they made a nice radio similar to the AR812 but sans side battery boxes. The 812 dials were nickel plated and it looks very nice. Whether it was a superhet or not, I cannot recall. Memory is getting poor. :?


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Apparently there was a "Western Electric Australia" arm. They were involved in telephones early on, I think.


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A nice 7-valve homebrew superhet seen on German Ebay:

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The valves are: 5 x A409 triodes, A415 triode and B443 power pentode. It looks like it has a built-in battery eliminator.


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orduna wrote:
Rick, the panel of mine is made of some kind of wood, looks like repwood painted black, i wonder if this kind of panels are common in this radios...

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Bakelite and other materials were used to impregnate fiber to make easy to drill and cut homebrew panels. No chipping, cracking, or splitting.


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My contribution to this thread. With info provided by folks on this forum, was able to get this set going (nothing really wrong with it other than an open grid leak).

I will probably need to restuff the filter caps at some point. As you can see from the 4th pic, they are leaky in more ways than one...

I should also track down the Northern Electric variant of the 540AW at some point....

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Was there an Australian affiliate of Western Electric? (Southern Electric?)
Western Electric had a tube factory set up in Australia during WWI.


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nice looking sets guys.maybe someone should start a page somewhere and show all these sets.we could have our own super het museum page.

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hcheetham,

Follow the link for a few more old superhets, if you haven't already.

http://www.superhets.info/page5.html

Click on pix to enlarge.

Rick

<PS> And, to all of you, hope Santa stuffs your stockings with bunches of good UV201A Rainbows!!! Ho! Ho! Ho!

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Wow! that Mercury 10 is plain bloody gorgeous. Just love it.

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Hi, I DO DEFINITELY SUPPORT THE IDEA OF THE ARF SUPERHET MUSEUM!!!
That's a great project and I am ready to supply pics and stuff about the 15 early supers I have in my collection.
Let's get started!

:D :D :D

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Luca isn't kidding - - he has some great looking superhets in his collection.

Hi Luca - - long time since I last had contact - - hope you are well and ready for the coming Christmas Season.

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This is my Victoreen that I just finished restoring. I don't believe it was actually made by Victoreen but some other company that designed this set as a kit based on the Victoreen circuit and components. It uses a three connector loop antenna and the first audio stage if transformer coupled while the second audio stage is resistance coupled. All of the tubes run on 90v B+ except the detector tube which runs on 45v when using an 01A or 22v when using a 00A tube. Bias is -4.5v. This set can run on either 01As/12A or 99s/120.

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Now that I finished restoring this Victoreen I'm now going to start putting together my 1928 Remler "Infradyne". I sent the chassis off to get professionally painted and last week I got it back. They did a wonderful job on it.

Update: I just received the chassis from a local auto paint shop and they did a great job on the paint. The paint is a semigloss black which matched exactly the black paint that was used on the chassis of my "29" Remler superhet. When I'm finished I'll post photos of the completed set here on this thread.

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