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 Post subject: Re: 1937-38 Motorola 9R Cylindrical Console Radio
PostPosted: Jan Thu 07, 2016 6:59 pm 
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Did it have a small oblong opening in the speaker board, toward the bottom of the radio? I'm thinking that the 9Y omitted the bottom cabinet plate and speaker board front opening, but I honestly can't remember- I didn't open up the speaker chamber when I recapped the set (no need to do so) and am working off memory from when I restored the cabinet, some 30 years ago.

Yes the 9Y has the 3/4 Board in the Bottom and the oblong opening. That is visible from the front through Grill cloth.

Both 9Y and 9R are very good sounding Radios. The Record Player on the 9R , sound is just amazing on the old 78's

I have the 6T also 2 less tubes , same Dial, NO eye tube. Seem to be sought after on e-Pay.

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 Post subject: Re: 1937-38 Motorola 9R Cylindrical Console Radio
PostPosted: Aug Mon 15, 2016 9:06 pm 
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Add another to the list. Not sure if a member got this one this weekend, I bid it up to 625 then stopped, yes probly should have went more, was complete as far as I could tell, could have used a refinish especially on top.


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 Post subject: Re: 1937-38 Motorola 9R Cylindrical Console Radio
PostPosted: Aug Mon 15, 2016 11:27 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: 1937-38 Motorola 9R Cylindrical Console Radio
PostPosted: Aug Tue 16, 2016 12:36 am 
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Yep, same one, as previously stated by others in another thread, even though I had been looking for one of these for at least 10 years, it was not that impressive in person, would have sold it if I would have won.


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 Post subject: Re: 1937-38 Motorola 9R Cylindrical Console Radio
PostPosted: Aug Tue 16, 2016 12:47 am 
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I overheard another gentleman saying to his wife, "they only made 5, this is the 6th found", lets please put that rumor wherever that came from to rest please, definately was a production run, not many sold, but they are out there


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 Post subject: Re: 1937-38 Motorola 9R Cylindrical Console Radio
PostPosted: Aug Tue 16, 2016 1:31 am 
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The first time I heard that rumour was when one came up on eBay about 2012. The seller stated it as an unsupported fact... Also that one of the 5 was in the Smithsonian.

There are many known production models of which fewer than 5 can be tallied now. So just because only 5 (or 6, or 8) are known means nothing, except perhaps it's pretty rare.

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 Post subject: Re: 1937-38 Motorola 9R Cylindrical Console Radio
PostPosted: Aug Tue 16, 2016 12:28 pm 
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In my Honest Opinion More than 5 were produced, I have record of eight found so far, from pristine to Empty Cabinet.

Also I contacted the Smithsonian and they have no record of a Motorola Model 9R being in their collection.

However I do firmly believe it is a Rare Model and is highly sought after.

Everyone that sees mine is Highly Impressed at the Cabinet Style and the Sound produced, especially by the Record Player.

Value ???? What the Market will allow. First one sold for $2200, got mine in disastrous condition for $197.50. Stopped counting after I had $1,036 into it. It is in my Dining room and played daily. I also have the 9Y Console and the 6T Table Top restored. Got the 9Y from Willie.

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 Post subject: Re: 1937-38 Motorola 9R Cylindrical Console Radio
PostPosted: Aug Tue 16, 2016 5:57 pm 
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Love the radio and the ones of Bob.

Don't understand this negative of not being P/P ? Most were class A, took a lot more power, made a lot more heat in the cabinet and I bet in a blind test virtually no one could tell the difference to a single ended class A. Yes! there is cancellation of harmonics but can you hear it?

There are Brit radios that were made with P/P and single ended versions and more than one collector, who both have the two, tell me the single ended sounds better.

As to power who plays there radios at more than a few 100 mW in modern homes and too much would probably destroy the speaker cone anyway after nearly 80 years.

Actually, the limiting factor of how good a radio sounds is certainly the speaker in my experience. If I connect a 70's 'Hi-Fi' book shelf speaker to a good Philips chassis, which has sophisticated detection using 3 diodes and an output amp with negative feedback it sounds stunning in comparison to the set speaker.

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 Post subject: Re: 1937-38 Motorola 9R Cylindrical Console Radio
PostPosted: Mar Fri 24, 2017 10:05 pm 
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Well, it has been a few years since I posted photos of my cabinet restoration and I was going to start on the chassis when my back surgery intervened. So, after a couple of head scratching months, I finally finished getting it working! :D There was so much wrong with this radio and it was evident someone was under there in the distant past and messed things up. Incorrectly installed capacitors were the first clue. :x

The power cords were toast; field coil shot; magic eye, AF power output and oscillator tubes bad; band select switch broken; volume control shot, and IF transformers way out of adjustment. Replaced all the capacitors and bad resistors, and substituted a choke/power resistor for the field coil in order to install an 8"- 8 ohm PM speaker. Also changed the resistors in the voltage divider for the oscillator tube to get the B+ more in line with nominal ranges.

Took a while using my o-scope and signal generator to get the set realigned. All 3 bands pull in stations with just a couple of clip leads and it's down in my basement.

The original record player was intact in this set and I was able to get it working. Not the greatest fidelity as the needle in the armature looks reminiscent of a Victrola. But it's original and working.

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I just need to find a replacement rubber armature rest as the original has the consistency of chewed gum. Still need to tweak a few things and figure out why the magic eye isn't closing all the way with a strong station. Already changed the 1 meg-ohm resistor in the tubes socket. Was reading over 2 meg.

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 Post subject: Re: 1937-38 Motorola 9R Cylindrical Console Radio
PostPosted: Nov Tue 28, 2017 11:10 am 
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I just ran across a mention of the Motorola 9R in a magazine. On americanradiohistory.com, Radio Today, June 1937, pg. 117....

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http://www.americanradiohistory.com/hd2 ... e-0117.pdf

Kind of explains why the 9R is so rare. At a list price of $149.95, it was Motorola's 2nd most expensive radio. Of course, it was a radio-phono combination unit... On another list I found of combo units in the Sept. '37 issue, the 9R was actually a budget model compared to most radio-phono combos.

http://www.americanradiohistory.com/hd2 ... e-0030.pdf


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 Post subject: Re: 1937-38 Motorola 9R Cylindrical Console Radio
PostPosted: Nov Tue 28, 2017 5:12 pm 
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I love that set... and want to find one that will go with my oval 9A chairside. They are verrrrry cool looking radios!!


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 Post subject: Re: 1937-38 Motorola 9R Cylindrical Console Radio
PostPosted: Nov Tue 28, 2017 7:23 pm 
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Thank you for finding some neat info on this radio. Always appreciated. And since I never posted photos of the finished work I'm doing so now. The radio and phono look and sound wonderful. The grill cloth and phono are still original, but I had to change the speaker to a PM due to the original field coil being open. The dial was also replaced by some wonderful work by RadioDaze. The back was missing but reconstructed one from info given me by Joybird.


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 Post subject: Re: 1937-38 Motorola 9R Cylindrical Console Radio
PostPosted: Nov Tue 28, 2017 7:40 pm 
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wow wow wow! enjoy!!


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 Post subject: Re: 1937-38 Motorola 9R Cylindrical Console Radio
PostPosted: Nov Wed 29, 2017 1:16 am 
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You should save the original speaker If it's not too late. Some future owner might want to get that FC rewound.


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 Post subject: Re: 1937-38 Motorola 9R Cylindrical Console Radio
PostPosted: Nov Wed 29, 2017 1:46 am 
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I did save the original speaker and placed it inside on the bottom of the radio. This radio had so many different problems I was almost ready to say uncle. Thankfully I stayed with it and kept plugging along. Beautiful piece in our living room.


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 Post subject: Re: 1937-38 Motorola 9R Cylindrical Console Radio
PostPosted: Nov Wed 29, 2017 2:50 am 
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Really great work. Looks beautiful.

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 Post subject: Re: 1937-38 Motorola 9R Cylindrical Console Radio
PostPosted: Nov Wed 29, 2017 4:09 am 
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I have a 9 tube chassis for one of these if anyone needs such. Has the knobs, bezel and speaker too as I recall.
It was installed into a basement wall about 6 miles from my home, in a subdivision built in the 50's. I bet they got the radio from a family member around 1957 and decided to install it in their new "finished" basement rec room. Probably sounded great listening to the ball games or doing laundry ! Those are great radios I think, well made.
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 Post subject: Re: 1937-38 Motorola 9R Cylindrical Console Radio
PostPosted: Nov Wed 29, 2017 4:26 am 
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Thanks for all the way cool pictures and information on these Motorola Radios!! I love the cabinets!!!

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 Post subject: Re: 1937-38 Motorola 9R Cylindrical Console Radio
PostPosted: Nov Wed 29, 2017 5:17 am 
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tpcaz wrote:
since I never posted photos of the finished work I'm doing so now.
Wow, that is truly beautiful! You guys who have found these sure are fortunate. I would LOVE to find one of these some day! (I'd also love to find the space for one! :wink: ) I keep telling myself they don't take up as much room as other radios, right?

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I love that set... and want to find one that will go with my oval 9A chairside.
The 9A is another beauty! I also stumbled across mention of the 9A in that same issue. Not by model number though, so you'd never find it with a search. Radio Today, June 1937, pg. 12...

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 Post subject: Re: 1937-38 Motorola 9R Cylindrical Console Radio
PostPosted: Jun Fri 07, 2019 2:52 pm 
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Hello! - Got a new one here in Europe! - Is in perfect working order.
Now there are 10?
More images soon.
Best regards - Peter ...


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