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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Oct Tue 20, 2020 3:32 pm 
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I am not sure how rare the Arborphone model 27 is, but only two sold at Radio Attic since 2005 and two on ebay in last year. Do not remember other ebay listings on the Arborphone model 27 in previous years. In second picture I added a Triad 27K to 8 ohm audio transformer and drive a 12" Oxford speaker in a Radiola 100 speaker.


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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Oct Tue 20, 2020 5:16 pm 
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Hi Jim. Nice radio, but not very rare. Maybe $250 to $350 or so in excellent condition and working. Two or three a year are sold on Ebay.

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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Oct Tue 20, 2020 8:22 pm 
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W.F. Main Splendid-Grand, manufactured by Klitzen.
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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Oct Tue 20, 2020 9:58 pm 
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Very cool radio Jeff.

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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Oct Wed 21, 2020 12:19 am 
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Jeff:
That is identical to a Michigan M-12 (MRC-12). Any chance someone stuck a WE Main tag on the cabinet? Doesn't look like any Splendid I've seen. But...I haven't seen everything.


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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Oct Wed 21, 2020 1:22 am 
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Be careful with the tube sockets. They're mounted on rubber shock mounts. My experience is those rubber mounts are dried out and brittle... bump them wrong, twist a tube too hard getting it in or out... and the mounts will shatter.

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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Oct Wed 21, 2020 5:03 pm 
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The Splendid-Grand has the same components as the MRC-12, that's for sure. Like my parts counterman used to say "It's the same, but different." Both have the "Manufactured by Klitzen..." tags inside.

Looks to be less expensive to manufacture. Single layer front panels instead of the double panel with the little windows. Standard-type knobs instead of the machined levers on the MRC-12. And the cabinet looks cheaper; I don't know the original finish but it looked to be painted black, not a furniture-type finish.

I added photos of the Klitzen tags, note the sequential serial numbers. Also a photo of the mentioned tube sockets. Yes, you need to hold the socket from twisting when inserting the tubes.

This radio has good transformers and it plays. Very touchy to get the regeneration just right.

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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Oct Tue 27, 2020 2:24 pm 
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I haven't found much information on this well made radio beyond the reference shown.
In an August 1922 QST a reference was made to OWL with the same logo that appears on this set.

The OWL (Ogden Wireless Laboratories) was stated to be located at 1012 Ogden Ave in New York City.
In addition, a friend sent me a copy from the Highland Democrat newspaper of Peekskill, NY.
quote "Arthur T. Shultz of New York has been looking at sites in Canopus for a short wave broadcasting station. Mr. Shultz is connected with the Ogden Wireless Laboratories"

I haven't as yet further researched the company.

My big question is :
Was this the same Clarence E. Ogden that started Kodel in Cincinnati?
The dates don't seem to quite fit...


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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Oct Tue 27, 2020 4:02 pm 
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My guess is they were simply referencing the street name they were on for the company name.

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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Oct Tue 27, 2020 5:03 pm 
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I agree with Steve, probably just the street name.

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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Oct Thu 29, 2020 4:07 pm 
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I tend to agree with you guys.


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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Oct Fri 30, 2020 2:28 am 
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This is a set from a really short lived New England radio manufacturer. This is a 1-Tube dry cell set from the New England Radio Manufacturers Co. Boston.

The company trademarked the "Nermco" name in 1922 claiming use since May, 1922.
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The company apparently made a few models besides the 1-tube set. Here is an advertisement for probably a three-tube set.
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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Oct Fri 30, 2020 11:26 am 
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Very interesting Alan, and a new one on me.
Always like to see early New England radios.
I am making a hopeless attempt to list them all but probably never will finish.
Thanks for the addition to the thread.


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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
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Here's one you probably haven't seen. It's an unusual model of Chelsea Radio. I've not found any mention of it or pictures in all my years of Chelsea research. From the inside you can see it's clearly a Super 5, of which there are 3 popular configurations of. One has a wood decorative slant faced cabinet with a wood face and the same dials as this one and a metal tube chassis, one has a less decorative slant faced wood panel cabinet with Bakelite dials and metal tube Chassis, and the third is a less decorative slant faced Bakelite panel, with Bakelite dials and cabinet mounted tube sockets.


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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Oct Sat 31, 2020 3:14 am 
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bigalarsen wrote:
This is a set from a really short lived New England radio manufacturer. This is a 1-Tube dry cell set from the New England Radio Manufacturers Co. Boston.

The company trademarked the "Nermco" name in 1922 claiming use since May, 1922.
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Very nice radio Al, thanks for sharing.

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