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radiojwk
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Post subject: ID Belgian (?) radio (pictures added) Posted: Mar Fri 30, 2018 3:39 pm |
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Indiana Radios
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Post subject: Re: ID Belgian (?) radio (pictures added) Posted: Mar Fri 30, 2018 4:38 pm |
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Is that the name of the radio printed on the lower left hand corner of the dial?
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radiojwk
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Post subject: Re: ID Belgian (?) radio (pictures added) Posted: Mar Fri 30, 2018 4:47 pm |
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I added one more picture of the dial face. It says "Radiobell" in the lower left corner. I don't know if that is a manufacturer or a brand name.
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radiojwk
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Post subject: Re: ID Belgian (?) radio (pictures added) Posted: Mar Fri 30, 2018 4:52 pm |
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Hmmm. Radiobell model 45? 1944-45, Antwerp, Belgium.
I find it very strange that it was manufactured during WWII when liberation of Belgium was not complete until February 1945.
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egg
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Post subject: Re: ID Belgian (?) radio (pictures added) Posted: Mar Fri 30, 2018 5:01 pm |
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Post subject: Re: ID Belgian (?) radio (pictures added) Posted: Mar Fri 30, 2018 5:02 pm |
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Are those miniature tubes? It looks like each of the sockets is "straddling" a larger hole in the chassis. I suppose it could have been retrofitted at a later date, but I have my doubts. It looks like late 40's at the earliest, to me.
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Post subject: Re: ID Belgian (?) radio (pictures added) Posted: Mar Fri 30, 2018 11:31 pm |
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One has to remember that not all radios manufactured in Nazi-occupied Europe were Volksempfangers or other low end sets. There were higher end ones being made as well, though I don't know how many were being produced during the waning years of the war. I'd say 1945 is probably accurate.
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radiojwk
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Post subject: Re: ID Belgian (?) radio (pictures added) Posted: Mar Fri 30, 2018 11:48 pm |
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I think it’s an interesting radio. I don’t have a vintage European radio in my collection so this is one I’m interested in getting. Knowing nothing about it, can someone suggest what a reasonable price might be?
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Post subject: Re: ID Belgian (?) radio (pictures added) Posted: Mar Fri 30, 2018 11:54 pm |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 8679 Location: Baltimore, MD
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The difficult part with pre-1950s European radios is that some of the tubes can be difficult to source. Couple that with overzealous shipping restrictions from ebay's global shipping program that some sellers are in love with and you'll likely have to do some serious searching if any turn out to be bad.
It's a nice looking set, but know that it's one that could potentially take a while if it needs more than caps and the occasional resistor. I personally wouldn't go any higher than $100 on it. $50-$75 would be better.
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radiojwk
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Post subject: Re: ID Belgian (?) radio (pictures added) Posted: Mar Sat 31, 2018 12:04 am |
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Thanks Tom. It’s being offered locally so shipping is not an issue. I offered $75 but have a feeling I may have insulted the seller. We’ll see.
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Post subject: Re: ID Belgian (?) radio (pictures added) Posted: Mar Sat 31, 2018 12:20 am |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 1770 Location: Long Beach, CA USA
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It's not a particularly good looking set, and Euro sets of that era can be a challenge to work on. Sorry the seller is insulted but I doubt there's much demand for that type of radio.
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Post subject: Re: ID Belgian (?) radio (pictures added) Posted: Mar Sat 31, 2018 2:34 am |
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I think it is an attractive cabinet, and it has a max output of 4.8 watts into a large speaker. Yes, those are unusual Philips tubes, with filament voltages of 20, 50 and 55 volts, and a 12 volt eye tube. There are radio clubs in Belgium and Holland with members that know all about that radio. I found a forum where they were discussing wartime radio. Belgians were ordered to bring their radios in to be placed in storage on April 4, 1944. So it may have been purchased just before that. Or it belonged to a Nazi collaborator. They were allowed to keep radios, and they had the money to purchase something like that one. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=337640&start=20Try here, old Euro radio farts: http://www.nvhr.nl/frameset.htm?&ContentFrameOpen the website and then Links. A 1950 Radiobell Standard looks like it has the same chassis. http://users.skynet.be/albert.aerts/rad ... bstand.htm
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Post subject: Re: ID Belgian (?) radio (pictures added) Posted: Mar Sat 31, 2018 8:44 am |
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Post subject: Re: ID Belgian (?) radio (pictures added) Posted: Mar Sat 31, 2018 9:59 am |
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Better 40's radios, ones with transformers, go for less than £25 here. Certainly I would not expect it to make more than £50 in the UK. Apart from its association with WW2 occupied Europe it has little attraction in my opinion. But it is 'over there' and so that's in its favour. To me your $75 offer was not insulting and about right. The valves are unusual, perhaps in Belgium or Holland some may be available. Possibly the B9A types will be low emission, they don't have the life of Octals and the old B5, B7 ones. Don't know much about the Loctals as I have never had a set with them, or passed it on pretty quick You can look at auction prices here:https://www.bvws.org.uk/auctions/photos.php Try WB 11th Feb 2018. Lot 152, 1946 made £10 and I had one of those and they are excellent radios. Then a little prettier, Lot 251, 1947 made £32 Gary
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zenith82
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Post subject: Re: ID Belgian (?) radio (pictures added) Posted: Mar Sat 31, 2018 11:21 am |
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If they're insulted, so be it. That was a fair offer. Let them keep it. So many people think they are sitting on a gold mine now thanks to those tv shows.
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Post subject: Re: ID Belgian (?) radio (pictures added) Posted: Mar Sat 31, 2018 1:58 pm |
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FYI, Those tubes other than the eye tube are fairly common as they were used extensively in the late 40s and early 50s from what I have seen. Philips and Tesla used them. Henry
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Post subject: Re: ID Belgian (?) radio (pictures added) Posted: Mar Sat 31, 2018 2:06 pm |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 3312 Location: Nr London, England, SS1 3PT
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But only in Europe I think: unlikely to find any in the UK.
Best to ask on RM.org first about typical prices. Some crazy prices for tubes on Ebay ! (Euro 70 to 100 for one I wanted).
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Post subject: Re: ID Belgian (?) radio (pictures added) Posted: Mar Sat 31, 2018 4:03 pm |
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Post subject: Re: ID Belgian (?) radio (pictures added) Posted: Mar Sat 31, 2018 4:44 pm |
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radiojwk wrote: Hmmm. Radiobell model 45? 1944-45, Antwerp, Belgium.
I find it very strange that it was manufactured during WWII when liberation of Belgium was not complete until February 1945. Most of Belgium was liberated at the end of September ´44,together with the southern part of the Netherlands. Jard N. Attachment:
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Post subject: Re: ID Belgian (?) radio (pictures added) Posted: Mar Sat 31, 2018 4:51 pm |
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zenith82 wrote: If they're insulted, so be it. That was a fair offer. Let them keep it. So many people think they are sitting on a gold mine now thanks to those tv shows. Like this Idiot: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Grundig-Majest ... xyYSJSApIw
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