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 Post subject: Re: Here's one you don't see often: vintage chinese Panda ra
PostPosted: Feb Wed 13, 2019 2:45 am 
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Allen G wrote:
Does it have variable voltage taps? They may have hoped to export them to some English speaking country at some point, otherwise why English markings on the dial?


Possibly for export to Hong Kong?

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 Post subject: Re: Here's one you don't see often: vintage chinese Panda ra
PostPosted: Feb Wed 13, 2019 2:48 am 
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Neat radio! I love the fish shaped eye tube. It is interesting that it has a Euro type design and that it has English markings. Thanks for sharing.


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 Post subject: Re: Here's one you don't see often: vintage chinese Panda ra
PostPosted: Feb Wed 13, 2019 4:15 am 
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bobwilson1977 wrote:
I seriously doubt this was ever made for export- especially to the US: we had a trade embargo against them that wasn't lifted for decades after this was produced. Given that everything is in Chinese inside and out also is a strong indicator it was for the domestic Chinese market.

Not for export to the US, maybe, but quite possibly elsewhere. The embargo wasn't world-wide, and many countries lifted theirs almost immediately after the UN sanctions were removed in 1953-4.

I've been told by (unfortunately, now-departed) Indian acquaintances that Chinese-made radios were common at the lower end of the market there - at least until the Sino-Indian war in the early 60's - and I've been told by others they were also fairly common in HK & Macau. All the mainland chinese domestic radios I've seen have been labelled in Simplified Chinese (with English numbers) so, given that the dial labels on yours are in both (Traditional? Can't quite tell from the pics, but it looks like it…) Chinese and English, I wonder if it wasn't originally made for the HK market or similar?

(edited to add "lifted" [their embargoes])


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 Post subject: Re: Here's one you don't see often: vintage chinese Panda ra
PostPosted: Feb Fri 15, 2019 2:20 pm 
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Hello Bob

Have you noticed, that in you Panda sits an output tube EL84 (from Siemens)?

If i see correctly, there should be a 6P1 (China) - a tube compareable to 6AQ5 but not to EL84/6BQ5.

Also a side note to European radio design: not all radios were that uniform as you guess - have a look at some French or British radios... Just two examples:

https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/snr_excelsior_55_ez80.html

https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/murphy_a272ca_272.html

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 Post subject: Re: Here's one you don't see often: vintage chinese Panda ra
PostPosted: Feb Sat 16, 2019 1:58 am 
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Thanks, Walter, and you are correct about Euro design. How about the Sonora 301? 8)

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Or this one, Vef Super Luxus? Do you know where I can get one?

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 Post subject: Re: Here's one you don't see often: vintage chinese Panda ra
PostPosted: Feb Sun 17, 2019 12:21 pm 
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Hello John (?)

Difficult to get a VEF Geographic - specially that model. RM.org mentions, that only approx. 50 were made and only 4 are known to have "survived" to our days.

But if you do a search for "Geographic", you will find, that Ingelen was the company that invented that special dial. VEF (LV) and Capello (P) were companies that had a license to also build radios with that dial.

All these Geographic radios are sought after and therefore expensive - if once offered. And shipping one should be excluded because of the fragility of the dial built up with dozens of light leading glass rods. One picture added to this model https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/ingelen_cosmos_us437w.html is showing that ...

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The more expensive early models, as the one pictured, had neon indicators, later ones eye tubes. Mainly the radios were simple 6 circuit constructions...

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 Post subject: Re: Here's one you don't see often: vintage chinese Panda ra
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Thanks for telling me that VEF also made such radios, as I will look for them when in Europe. I have not yet been to Latvia, so will go next time we are in Europe.

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