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 Post subject: 14 tube Silvertone Model 1825A plays once again ! !
PostPosted: Oct Sat 27, 2012 7:59 pm 
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I guess that I am just a fool for odd console radios,
EIleen and I found this last year near Altoona Pa. in an antique shop and I passed it right buy being the 6 legged type and usually they dont interest me but this one Eileen pointed out and I took a second look and found SIX 45A tubes on the chassis,
Yea two as drivers in PP for the four 45As in PPP
There were a few caps which looked like burnt sticks and tons of grime like it sat neat a wood stove which smoked badly for many decades,
Well Its playing now, Strong and LOUD as it should, Surprisingly not too many resistors needed replacement,
I believe that this was the top of the line console sold by Sears in 33 or 34,, Either way it sure packs a punch for something in a petite sized 6 legged console.
So onto a couple pics,
Peter


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 Post subject: Re: 14 tube Silvertone Model 1825A plays once again ! !
PostPosted: Oct Sat 27, 2012 8:07 pm 
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Congratulations! I'd love to find one of those, as I'm also a console guy. Please post more photos as you restore the cabinet.

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 Post subject: Re: 14 tube Silvertone Model 1825A plays once again ! !
PostPosted: Oct Sat 27, 2012 9:59 pm 
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Excellent!!!

I have the 1968 model with four 45s. Great set! Silvertone had some neat radios.


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 Post subject: Re: 14 tube Silvertone Model 1825A plays once again ! !
PostPosted: Oct Sat 27, 2012 10:48 pm 
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Congratulations! That is certainly a keeper!

That cabinet bears a striking resemblance to a certain Philco cabinet.

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Not exactly, but they share certain features. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: 14 tube Silvertone Model 1825A plays once again ! !
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Good catch!


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 Post subject: Re: 14 tube Silvertone Model 1825A plays once again ! !
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Yeah, but the Philco lacks (4) 45's in push-pull. A remarkable radio! Way 2 go!

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I hope to get a console some day, I would want one that I can fix and get my hands on the wood and restore, Project like that should keep you going through the winter

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 Post subject: Re: 14 tube Silvertone Model 1825A plays once again ! !
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I have the 1831 model, also 14 tubes and 6-45's but with 2 speakers.
A real thumper.

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WOW, AWESOME!!!!! I'd love to hear that one play. nice work. Very nice looking console. :D

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 Post subject: Re: 14 tube Silvertone Model 1825A plays once again ! !
PostPosted: Oct Sun 28, 2012 12:11 am 
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I am not sure that you guys realize that this Silvertone uses six 45As, NOT 45s,
All 45As are about 25% bigger in size than a 45 and about 1/3rd more output, AND all are labeled Silvertone, I have never seen another brand of the 45A tube,

Here is some information on the 45A tube


45A
Country: United States of America (USA) Brand: Silvertone Tubes only - for models see Sears
Tube type: Triode, vacuum Power/Output
Tube ID = 20526
previous | next

Identical to 45A
Base UX-Base (4 Pins (2 thick, USA 1924, UX)
Was used by Radio/TV-reception etc.
Filament Vf 2.5 Volts / If: 1.5 Ampere / -: Direct / -: Parallel, (AC/DC) /
Description The Super Silvertone 45A is an uprated version of the 45 etc. The Va is uprated from 250 to 325 Volt, the power output from 1.6 to 3 Watt.
Text in other languages (may differ)
Literature Tube Lore, Sibley, USA 1996
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http://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_45a.html
Tough tube to find when you need one.
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 Post subject: Re: 14 tube Silvertone Model 1825A plays once again ! !
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Yes, I'm quite familiar with the 45A. It was partway between a 45 and a 2A3.

It seems only Colonial made Silvertones used them.

Colonial also used a 2A3H in certain models, which the 2A3 seems to sub just fine. I had a 2A3H once and it was a single-plate 2A3 as many audiophools go nuts over.

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azenithnut wrote:
Congratulations! That is certainly a keeper!

That cabinet bears a striking resemblance to a certain Philco cabinet.

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Not exactly, but they share certain features. :wink:

-Steve



I thought this was more interesting:

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Between the Philco and the Silvertone.

Similar style stretcher and leg shape.
Each leg becomes a pillar going up the front of the cabinet.
Similar waterfall piece below the speaker grill.
Those were the features that caught my eye.

About the only feature the 606 has is a remotely similar style speaker grill.

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 Post subject: Re: 14 tube Silvertone Model 1825A plays once again ! !
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Yes the Philco cabinet design is close with some real similarities.
its interesting to see the evolution of the cabinets and chassis through the 30s, The very same chassis was used in a more standard Silvertone the very same year keeping up with the times and this 6 ledger was out of date at the time and was still running the high line chassis,
I was fortunate to have found the set and I will tell you that it really has some power behind the single 12" speaker, Enough that even at half volume it is silly LOUD for the petit size that is really is....
I will work on the cabinet in the spring, Its good to have playing well now and the cabinet wont be too hard, Its pretty clean.
One more console bought back to life.
Peter


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 Post subject: Re: 14 tube Silvertone Model 1825A plays once again ! !
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Speaking of the 45A tube, is the mmho rating the same (vic 1850) as the 45?


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Very nice, Peter! :mrgreen: You give me inspiration to work on my 1968. It's "only" got 4-45As, but I'm hoping they're the important 4! ;-)

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 Post subject: Re: 14 tube Silvertone Model 1825A plays once again ! !
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palegreenthumb wrote:
Very nice, Peter! :mrgreen: You give me inspiration to work on my 1968. It's "only" got 4-45As, but I'm hoping they're the important 4! ;-)


You wont find a better Silvertone than the 1968A !!! I have one and its a KILLER radio !
Variable IF ! PP 45A output ! 5 bands ! two speed tuning, tuning eye, lots to like .

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oldradioparts wrote:
You wont find a better Silvertone than the 1968A !!! I have one and its a KILLER radio !
Variable IF ! PP 45A output ! 5 bands ! two speed tuning, tuning eye, lots to like .

Ho-ho, don't I wish! No, mine's not a 1968A. It's a 1968, earlier version. 4 bands, no tuning eye. Everything else though. I think the 1968A was a mid-model year upgrade.

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 Post subject: Re: 14 tube Silvertone Model 1825A plays once again ! !
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Yes and the A version also has octal tubes whereas the original 1968 was all large pin types.
The 1936 year Silvertone catalog mentions the eye tube is a dealer installed option but I suspect they were doing them at the factory after a short while. What dealer would want to have to try to make a perfect 1.25" hole in a cabinet for the bezel ?

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Yes and the A version also has octal tubes whereas the original 1968 was all large pin types.
The 1936 year Silvertone catalog mentions the eye tube is a dealer installed option but I suspect they were doing them at the factory after a short while. What dealer would want to have to try to make a perfect 1.25" hole in a cabinet for the bezel ?

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Could they have been saying its dealer installed to skirt the rca licensing costs for the 6E5 ?


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