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 Post subject: Stephen Masek's Atwater-Kent 55C Kiel Table Restoration
PostPosted: Sep Wed 22, 2021 8:00 pm 
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I got this as part of a group of radios a few years ago. The table is now in my office, with a printer on it, as the finish on the top had been removed. I may not need to strip the rest of it, just lightly sand, touch-up, and spray a few light coats of clear.

The radio plays with no hum. I removed the three capacitor blocks, then tested the capacitors and all seemed to be good. Therefore, I put them back. They did a nice job of putting them into sealed cans, apparently with effective terminal seals. However, I am adding a fuse in the center tap of the high voltage winding. I just tested it again, and see varying current between 50-some to 90-some mA.


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 Post subject: Re: Stephen Masek's Atwater-Kent 55C Kiel Table Restoration
PostPosted: Sep Wed 22, 2021 9:07 pm 
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So it needs a nice lace doily on top with a ceramic cat figurine flower vase and real flowers for an authentic restoration. However if you like fun, instead of a vase, put a cookie jar on top in case small children ever come around. Then you can have a mic connected to your talking house and if the kids try to get at the cookies a scary voice emanates from the table "DON'T touch my cookies!".

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 Post subject: Re: Stephen Masek's Atwater-Kent 55C Kiel Table Restoration
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I listened some more and decided the sound was weak, so tested the '45 tubes. One tested 1,500 when the specification is 1,850. The other one has a lit filament, but barely moved the tester needle. I revised the first post, as a set of strong '45 tubes draws more current.

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 Post subject: Re: Stephen Masek's Atwater-Kent 55C Kiel Table Restoration
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What value of fuse did you install on the center tap Stephen?

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 Post subject: Re: Stephen Masek's Atwater-Kent 55C Kiel Table Restoration
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A 100 mA fuse might be too close, although it does no go over 90 mA often, nor for much time. I'll re-test the current draw with NOS '45 tubes once I have them. The ceramic 3AG size fuses Mouser carries come in 100 mA and 250 mA ratings.

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 Post subject: Re: Stephen Masek's Atwater-Kent 55C Kiel Table Restoration
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I first saw, and admired, the Kiel table model when Rima and me attended the AWA annual convention in Rochester, New York in 2008, the year I started collecting and working on radios.

I was just listening to a baseball game on it, with a 100 mA fuse in the high voltage center tap. Today, I first checked with my meter and saw it briefly go above 80 mA, but usually in the 60 mA range.

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 Post subject: Re: Stephen Masek's Atwater-Kent 55C Kiel Table Restoration
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When you tested the original capacitors, did you test them for leakage at their operating voltage?

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 Post subject: Re: Stephen Masek's Atwater-Kent 55C Kiel Table Restoration
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No, as I do not have such a tester. However, I've found that the bad ones are always way off of the specified value, if they even test as a capacitor.

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 Post subject: Re: Stephen Masek's Atwater-Kent 55C Kiel Table Restoration
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Every Kiel table I've seen has had serious finish damage on the top. Was that because people placed vases, glasses etc. on top, or was there something odd about the finish?

That model should remind is that back in the 1920s, radio manufacturers were trying hard to integrate the radio into homes. They spent a lot of time designing models that people would be proud to display in their living rooms, but they also came up with a few designs, like the Kiel table, that were very unobtrusive. When tell people that my Kiel table has a radio inside, they have a tough time believing it at first.


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 Post subject: Re: Stephen Masek's Atwater-Kent 55C Kiel Table Restoration
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Joe, there are also several excellent side table and chest of drawer radio designs.


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 Post subject: Re: Stephen Masek's Atwater-Kent 55C Kiel Table Restoration
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Absolutely, Stephen. Those are great designs and didn't AK have several cabinets to "disguise" the AK 40 as a piece of furniture?


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 Post subject: Re: Stephen Masek's Atwater-Kent 55C Kiel Table Restoration
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My A-K 44 in a Pooley cabinet with storage for pipes and smoking accessories, books, magazines.

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 Post subject: Re: Stephen Masek's Atwater-Kent 55C Kiel Table Restoration
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Back when furniture was made of veneered and solid wood, not particle board and plastic..... We need new family room furniture, and see that solid wood furniture is still made by the Amish, but with a limited range of styles. I think the teak furniture from Ekornes is also still real wood.

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 Post subject: Re: Stephen Masek's Atwater-Kent 55C Kiel Table Restoration
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FStephenMasek wrote:
Back when furniture was made of veneered and solid wood, not particle board and plastic..... We need new family room furniture, and see that solid wood furniture is still made by the Amish, but with a limited range of styles. I think the teak furniture from Ekornes is also still real wood.


Why not furnish with some nice antique furniture?

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 Post subject: Re: Stephen Masek's Atwater-Kent 55C Kiel Table Restoration
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The house is way to modern for that, with a 20' family room ceiling. Some of the mid-century wood furniture could work. We are in no hurry, so will be looking. We have some modern art in the room, as well as a large (4' x 5') mid-century oil painting. The Ekornes furniture is nice and will last a long time, but it is costly. The fake leather recliners which we got for $450 each did not even last three years, so no more of that junk.

I read on an old post on this forum that somebody used a conical washer from a hardware store to replace the dial drive rubber. I stopped at Home Depot today to buy a new battery lawn mover and to look for such washers. I have changed enough toilet seats over the years that I immediately recognized the proper washer as the type used to install toilet seats. A little turbine oil on each tuning capacitor and the new washer on the tuning knob shaft (after cleaning with a medium abrasive sponge in my Dremel tool), and it works like new.

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FStephenMasek wrote:
The house is way to modern for that, with a 20' family room ceiling. Some of the mid-century wood furniture could work.


How do you keep all those old radios from clashing with that modern house? :D :D :D

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 Post subject: Re: Stephen Masek's Atwater-Kent 55C Kiel Table Restoration
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I was just listening to a baseball game on the 55C. Amazing, the thing is eight years away from being 100 years old and all it really needed was a new rubber piece on the station selector shaft, and fresh tubes.

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The house is way to modern for that, with a 20' family room ceiling. Some of the mid-century wood furniture could work.


How do you keep all those old radios from clashing with that modern house? :D :D :D
It depends on the room. The radio in the entry foyer fits well there. Somehow, the 1931 grandfather clock radio works in the modern living room. Most of the radios are in the radio room.

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