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 Post subject: Hard To Get To Nuts
PostPosted: Jun Fri 12, 2020 4:24 pm 
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Sometimes you remove a small nut underneath the chassis. It was easy to get it off with a nut driver, but oh so difficult to re-install it on the bolt. I will try to start the nut back on the bolt with needle nosed pliers, but can't get it to "start" on the threads. Making sure the nut is level on top of the screw, I'll take a pencil with a good flat eraser on top, carefully put the eraser on top of the nut, then slowly & firmly hold the eraser and turn the pencil in the direction the nut needs to be fastened. It will engage the threads and if needed, you can take the pencil lead and gently turn it further, assured the nut has started on the thread. Then just use the nut driver to finish tightening the nut on the bolt.

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 Post subject: Re: Hard To Get To Nuts
PostPosted: Jun Fri 12, 2020 10:07 pm 
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I find that a plastic nut starter works very well. Heath used to include one in every HeathKit box.

https://www.newark.com/menda/35120/kit- ... onSupplies

https://www.modularparts.com/COMPUTERS- ... -490-5.cfm

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I use my curved Hemostat all the time for various holding situations;

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 Post subject: Re: Hard To Get To Nuts
PostPosted: Jun Sat 13, 2020 8:07 am 
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To start a small nut in a difficult location, I sometimes improvise by scotch-taping the nut flat to the end of a plastic drinking straw; using the tip of a small sharp blade, I poke a screw clearance hole through the tape into the threaded hole of the nut. With a little care, this technique will hold both a lock-washer and nut long enough to get them started on the screw.
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 Post subject: Re: Hard To Get To Nuts
PostPosted: Jun Sat 13, 2020 12:29 pm 
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Another trick.....If you can position things so that the mating screw points up:

--maneuver the nut into position on top of the screw.
--insert a probe through the nut and hold the probe on the end of the screw---such that the nut is free to turn around the the probe.
--use another tool to turn the nut

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 Post subject: Re: Hard To Get To Nuts
PostPosted: Jun Sat 13, 2020 5:11 pm 
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Good idea!

I use my soldering pick tool for just that purpose.

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 Post subject: Re: Hard To Get To Nuts
PostPosted: Jun Sun 14, 2020 12:05 am 
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pixellany wrote:
Another trick.....If you can position things so that the mating screw points up:

--maneuver the nut into position on top of the screw.
--insert a probe through the nut and hold the probe on the end of the screw---such that the nut is free to turn around the the probe.
--use another tool to turn the nut


I've always kept some coat hanger wire around for that. You slide the nut down, keep the wire in place and spin the nut.

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 Post subject: Re: Hard To Get To Nuts
PostPosted: Jun Sun 14, 2020 12:30 am 
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Retired Radio Man wrote:
I've always kept some coat hanger wire around for that. You slide the nut down, keep the wire in place and spin the nut.

RRM

Beautiful, that also will get the washer onto the shaft. I have always used tape on the end of any shaft to hold the nut to get it started. Sometimes a plastic straw will be the right size. Yes, Heathkit did supply nut starters that worked very well.

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 Post subject: Re: Hard To Get To Nuts
PostPosted: Aug Tue 04, 2020 1:10 am 
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I use a small piece of blue tape pushed partly into the nut driver. I makes the nut driver hold the nut more securely in any position.
I use this method to remove a nut to prevent it falling. Usually allows reinstalling the nut just fine, and releases after the nut is started.
(retrieving the lock washer or working the lock washer into position first is another matter!! usually use Rich's 3 tolls shown above)

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 Post subject: Re: Hard To Get To Nuts
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I have been using a piece of Scotch Double Sided tape on the end of a pencil or nut driver. Cut off the metal and eraser piece of a pencil and you have a short nut starter for tight areas.

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 Post subject: Re: Hard To Get To Nuts
PostPosted: Sep Tue 08, 2020 1:10 pm 
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This works great https://www.generaltools.com/nut-starter


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 Post subject: Re: Hard To Get To Nuts
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Ran across ad in “Farm “Collector” magazine for a tool called “handeeclamp. handeeclamp.com


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 Post subject: Re: Hard To Get To Nuts
PostPosted: Oct Mon 05, 2020 5:37 pm 
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Nut starters are easy to make with some heatshrink and some dowel or rigid tubing of about the same diameter of the nut. Set the nut on the end of the tubing. Slide the heatshrink over it so that it extends a little past the nut. Then, shrink the heatshrink.
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Then trim it off flush with the nut using a sharp knife.
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Remove the nut and you have your nut starter. Here's the one I just made along with one I made a while back.
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(They're not actually light emitting nut starters. I was shining a flashlight at them in order to get a better picture. :) )


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 Post subject: Re: Hard To Get To Nuts
PostPosted: Oct Mon 05, 2020 6:43 pm 
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Light-emitting nut starter...Hmmmmmm...

You may be onto something there. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Hard To Get To Nuts
PostPosted: Oct Tue 06, 2020 12:43 am 
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Light-emitting nut starter...Hmmmmmm...

You may be onto something there. :D

Hmm, yeah. For working inside those dark enclosures.
Easily done. Nut starter plus laser pointer plus more heatshrink.
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 Post subject: Re: Hard To Get To Nuts
PostPosted: Oct Tue 06, 2020 12:05 pm 
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I keep a chunk of child’s modeling clay on hand. just put a pea-sized blob of it in the end of the nut driver. The nut sticks to it enough to stay there when the driver is inverted.

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 Post subject: Re: Hard To Get To Nuts
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I am waiting for someone to post a picture of that rare, but oh-so-helpful third hand. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Hard To Get To Nuts
PostPosted: Oct Tue 06, 2020 12:38 pm 
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nuts?


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 Post subject: Re: Hard To Get To Nuts
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processhead wrote:
I waiting for someone to post a picture of that rare, but oh-so-helpful third hand. :wink:


With that extra elbow or wrist for those hard to reach places. I have a car that requires an extra arm joint when replacing the spark plugs.


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 Post subject: Re: Hard To Get To Nuts
PostPosted: Dec Tue 29, 2020 2:16 am 
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RCA made a set of fingertip wrenches, but they are hard to find.

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