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 Post subject: Re: when the radio owner asks a ridiculous price- what to do
PostPosted: Jul Sun 07, 2019 4:11 am 
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I have been looking for a Carnel Labs NM-7A or B. Also sold under Singer Stoddart and Eaton Ailtech names. There are 2 on the bay right now.

The $1695.00 one has been on there for about 2 or 3 years and the $1100.00 one has been on there for about 10 years. I have the other units in

this series but the most I have paid for one is about $250.00 including shipping. they weigh about 65 pounds. The NM-7 was the least expensive

one in the series and It covers 20 Hz to 50 KHz. Eventually I will get one at a decent price or I won't either way I will survive. But I would have a

hard time justifying paying those prices which I could not afford anyway for a piece of obsolete test equipment.

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 Post subject: Re: when the radio owner asks a ridiculous price- what to do
PostPosted: Jul Sun 07, 2019 2:39 pm 
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doc612 wrote: Well, this tire kicker has bought over 300 radios in the past 4 1/2 years.

So you are not new to the game then.
If you don't know by now how to deal with situations like this, then maybe you should pick up your putter and try... crazy golf or stamp collecting!

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 Post subject: Re: when the radio owner asks a ridiculous price- what to do
PostPosted: Jul Sun 07, 2019 2:53 pm 
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My first thoughts are the space needed for thm and then all of the work it takes to refurbish each one.

+1 Who has time to work on that many? I still have that 13 tube General console that refuses to be fixed. And then this 13 tube Western Air Patrol with mouse eaten IF. That all takes a lot of time to fix. :evil:

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 Post subject: Re: when the radio owner asks a ridiculous price- what to do
PostPosted: Jul Sun 07, 2019 8:21 pm 
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AuroraOldRadios wrote:
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My first thoughts are the space needed for thm and then all of the work it takes to refurbish each one.

+1 Who has time to work on that many? I still have that 13 tube General console that refuses to be fixed. And then this 13 tube Western Air Patrol with mouse eaten IF. That all takes a lot of time to fix. :evil:

Boys, boys, this is supposed to be a hobby, remember, lol? It's supposed to be relaxing, challenging, and rewarding, not frustrating.

Personally I also have several hundred radios, but the majority are "pocket" size Transistor sets. All my scores of tube sets work, easy as they were to refurb. Some Transistor sets still require recaps, even after I've had them for a dozen or more years now, but hey, I'll work on 'em when I damn well feel like it; I own them, not the other way around. Radios that I couldn't fix are normally sold, unless I really like it, so then it becomes a shelf queen. I can live with a few of those.


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 Post subject: Re: when the radio owner asks a ridiculous price- what to do
PostPosted: Jul Mon 08, 2019 1:45 am 
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I sometimes contact sellers just to ask to use their photos on RadioMuseum, and occasionally this starts a conversation where the seller asks me what I think of his price. I try to be honest, but it's gotten me nasty responses sometimes, so I've softened my tone a bit. Now I mostly try to encourage people not to leave a radio listed for years at a fixed price.

I'll usually say something along the lines of, "Well, I think it's worth $xxx, but I'm not a buyer today. Regardless of what I or anyone tells you it's worth, what really matters is how much cash someone is willing to put in your hand. It's a decent strategy to start with a high price like you have, but if you don't get any interest, then I'd recommend dropping your price over time until it sells."

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PostPosted: Jul Mon 08, 2019 2:02 am 
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remember folks, there is no shortage of radios.

if someone does not want to sell or they are playing the high-price game, let them play and move on. waste no time b/c something else WILL come along.

however, if you really really, and i do mean REALLY want it and are budgeted for it, go for it.

i paid $200 for this bell amplifier. it is stock, has never been touched except for the tubes, and sat on a shelf in a church around pittsburgh for its entire life.

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amongst my local radio hobby friends who have seen it, some say i paid too much, some say i got a deal, some said the price was just right.

it does not matter to me on one end or the other.

i absolutely love it, had to have it, could not live another minute without it, never seen an amp of this unique dial/number setup, never seen an amp in such great condition, and $200 was a fair price for me.

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 Post subject: Re: when the radio owner asks a ridiculous price- what to do
PostPosted: Jul Mon 08, 2019 2:46 am 
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That amplifier is a fine example of an excellent buy for a particular person (and probably many others who did not know about it, or who did not act promptly). It is nice to read that it went somebody who treasures it.

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 Post subject: Re: when the radio owner asks a ridiculous price- what to do
PostPosted: Jul Mon 08, 2019 2:57 am 
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thanks stephen,

i must get on the bandwagon to restore it this july-aug.

i have been finishing up a few AA6 sets to finish up the hobby for a long time. this amp most likely be the last thing for a very long time. i want to do other things.

too much baseball in altoona (pirates farm), which is a fantastic thing.

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 Post subject: Re: when the radio owner asks a ridiculous price- what to do
PostPosted: Jul Mon 08, 2019 5:44 pm 
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Sort of like this one:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-1923-ATWA ... SwRaRc9td9

$4,400 is a wee bit much IMHO.


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 Post subject: Re: when the radio owner asks a ridiculous price- what to do
PostPosted: Jul Mon 08, 2019 6:40 pm 
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houstonj wrote:
Sort of like this one:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-1923-ATWA ... SwRaRc9td9

$4,400 is a wee bit much IMHO.

Don't forget to include the $175 shipping tag as well... :roll: Seller has 155 items for auction, and this is the only radio; so much for his/her expertise on it's value.

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 Post subject: Re: when the radio owner asks a ridiculous price- what to do
PostPosted: Jul Mon 08, 2019 7:15 pm 
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houstonj wrote:
Sort of like this one:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-1923-ATWA ... SwRaRc9td9

$4,400 is a wee bit much IMHO.


About $1200 too much and the shipping charge is ridiculous.

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 Post subject: Re: when the radio owner asks a ridiculous price- what to do
PostPosted: Jul Tue 09, 2019 12:04 am 
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Don't forget to include the $175 shipping tag as well... :roll:

....and sales tax if you are unfortunate enough to live in one of those 14 States Ebay is collecting for. Sales tax for me would be about $300 at that price.


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 Post subject: Re: when the radio owner asks a ridiculous price- what to do
PostPosted: Jul Tue 09, 2019 1:07 am 
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Ouch!!

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 Post subject: Re: when the radio owner asks a ridiculous price- what to do
PostPosted: Jul Tue 09, 2019 5:52 am 
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What to do? If you wait, somebody else will make contact and maybe end up with it. It is like deciding to buy a lottery ticket. If you wait, someone else will win.

This happened recently. I never buy online, only if I can pick it up - check it out - locally. So I made contact, explained that it needed unobtainium parts and that it was a long drive. He refused my offer of much less money. Then a month later, the ad was gone, oh well.
2 months later, the ad is back, same lousy pics and typical poor description, no model number, but the price is now close to my offer. I had already moved on, now it was back. I procrastinated, do I really want his old junk? A week later, it was really gone, must have sold. Oh well.

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 Post subject: Re: when the radio owner asks a ridiculous price- what to do
PostPosted: Jul Fri 12, 2019 5:07 am 
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houstonj wrote:
Sort of like this one:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-1923-ATWA ... SwRaRc9td9

$4,400 is a wee bit much IMHO.


Going down! Now $4100, but will have to go a lot lower to sell.

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PostPosted: Jul Fri 12, 2019 2:13 pm 
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So what is a true Radiodyne in that condition worth? Anyone know roughly how many actually exist?


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 Post subject: Re: when the radio owner asks a ridiculous price- what to do
PostPosted: Jul Fri 12, 2019 5:53 pm 
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I don't believe there's any firm numbers on how many were produced, they are one of the rarer AK's. Production was stopped after a short run when Atwater Kent was found to be violating a patent by using the name "Radiodyne.
As far as value, it depends on how badly someone wants one. This one is in pretty good shape except for the cracked wood, it could use some cleaning up, but all in all not a bad looking one. It could go for over $3000.00. Shipping cost should be closer to $50.00, $175.00 is way too high.

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 Post subject: Re: when the radio owner asks a ridiculous price- what to do
PostPosted: Jul Fri 12, 2019 7:50 pm 
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Years ago I had a hard time walking away from an item that caught my eye even if the seller seemed off his latch. I would keep trying in any way I could to get the item. It never ends well. I've been collecting antiques since I was about 12 and learned very early on to forget that you saw an item when the seller, even slightly, seems to be playing games. I also walk away when a seller has any kind of derogatory demeanor. They say to never to be disappointed in those situation. He's stuck with his junk and you have genuine coin-of-the-realm in your pocket!


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 Post subject: Re: when the radio owner asks a ridiculous price- what to do
PostPosted: Jul Sun 14, 2019 5:18 am 
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atwaterkent1 wrote:
houstonj wrote:
Sort of like this one:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-1923-ATWA ... SwRaRc9td9

$4,400 is a wee bit much IMHO.


Going down! Now $4100, but will have to go a lot lower to sell.

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 Post subject: Re: when the radio owner asks a ridiculous price- what to do
PostPosted: Jul Thu 18, 2019 4:00 pm 
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Saw an ad for a Philco 14L, on FB market place a few weeks back,.. $3000.. The ad stated that it was from the 20s and that there were only 100 made.. also stated, it was in excellent condition despite the obvious peeling veneer,.. and it WORKED!! It finally got the best of me.. So I sent a link to a Philco page.. Showing exactly what it was and how many were made.. I was polite.. The lady responded and asked me to expand, and GIVE her my opinion.. Again I was polite and gave my opinion of the radio.. Now I have a stalker.. Total bat-sh** crazy..

Lesson learned..

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