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 Post subject: Probably the rarest Sparton mirror radio at auction
PostPosted: Feb Tue 23, 2021 3:28 am 
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The March 12th Estes auction in Medina, Ohio has one of the rarest art deco mirror radios in existence. A peach Nocturne. Simply stunning.
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 Post subject: Re: Probably the rarest Sparton mirror radio at auction
PostPosted: Feb Tue 23, 2021 3:36 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Probably the rarest Sparton mirror radio at auction
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 Post subject: Re: Probably the rarest Sparton mirror radio at auction
PostPosted: Feb Tue 23, 2021 3:56 am 
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Beautiful indeed! Is it original or a reproduction? Is that a hot chassis radio?

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 Post subject: Re: Probably the rarest Sparton mirror radio at auction
PostPosted: Feb Tue 23, 2021 4:28 am 
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Sold for $34,000 back in 2018

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 Post subject: Re: Probably the rarest Sparton mirror radio at auction
PostPosted: Feb Tue 23, 2021 5:55 am 
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Beautiful indeed! Is it original or a reproduction? Is that a hot chassis radio?

Just skimming a few Google hits, that chassis does not appear to be original

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 Post subject: Re: Probably the rarest Sparton mirror radio at auction
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The cabinet also looks new


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 Post subject: Re: Probably the rarest Sparton mirror radio at auction
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 Post subject: Re: Probably the rarest Sparton mirror radio at auction
PostPosted: Feb Tue 23, 2021 1:39 pm 
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Very nice collection for sale in Estes Mar 13th 2021 Auction.
https://www.auctionzip.com/Listings/3528961.html

I see SIX Walton radios. One each of the different models. Only one missing from this collection the 8A232 isn't there.

Nice collection of Sparton Mirror radios.

Anyone know who's collection this was?

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 Post subject: Re: Probably the rarest Sparton mirror radio at auction
PostPosted: Feb Tue 23, 2021 2:38 pm 
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Cabinet is a reproduction and the speaker baffle should not be painted black. There's no clips on the inner top of the cabinet in order to hold on the back screen panel in place (which is usually missing). There should be no silver trim around the cabinet and the cabinet's wood doesn't look aged. There's no labels attached to the inner part of the cabinet.

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Original cabinet of a Sparton Nocturne

That's not an original Nocturne chassis. An original chassis should have a switch on the back and the tag in the center.

With so much restoration done and non originality (I'm seeing more non originality then restoration), it's anybody's guess if the glass mirror is even original or even the metal frame. The metal frame and knobs do look original but in this day and age, along with the tremendous prices that such Nocturnes bring, who knows, they might be reproductions also. This whole set could be a one off reproduction using the chassis and speaker from a different Sparton model. It would take some personal close up examination and scrutinization in order to determine their originality.

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 Post subject: Re: Probably the rarest Sparton mirror radio at auction
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 Post subject: Re: Probably the rarest Sparton mirror radio at auction
PostPosted: Feb Tue 23, 2021 5:43 pm 
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That is not the chassis I would have expected to see in a Nocturne.

Usually it uses the 12 tube chassis with variable bandwidth IF, basically the same chassis in the 15 tube model 1466 or 1476 Triolian models, but without the additional amplifier chassis.

This looks like the chassis used in the 1066 which is 11 tubes. (10+eye) and uses a switched bandwidth arrangement rather than the mechanical coupling arrangement of the better chassis.

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 Post subject: Re: Probably the rarest Sparton mirror radio at auction
PostPosted: Feb Tue 23, 2021 6:22 pm 
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That's not the correct chassis. This is. Same chassis used in 1166 and 1176.
https://www.spartonradios.com/nocturne2.html


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 Post subject: Re: Probably the rarest Sparton mirror radio at auction
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The most obvious incorrect thing about it for me is the chromed metal. The peach/rose mirror version should have copper plated metal. Chrome was for the cobalt version.


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 Post subject: Re: Probably the rarest Sparton mirror radio at auction
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I took a closer look at this plastic Truetone:
https://www.auctionzip.com/auction-lot/ ... D024E50817

On the gold bezel between the knobs, it says "truetone" like many of them do, but there's also a little crest that has "W A" emblazoned in it, much like Airline radios display a crest that says M W. I haven't seen the Western Auto crest before.

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 Post subject: Re: Probably the rarest Sparton mirror radio at auction
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Does anyone know what this radio is? It's listed in the auction as a "Princeton chairside", but I wonder if it's missing legs?

Anyone have more details? A tube lineup? A manufacturer? A sales ad? Just seen one before to confirm if it's straight?

https://www.auctionzip.com/auction-lot/ ... 5DF4784978


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 Post subject: Re: Probably the rarest Sparton mirror radio at auction
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palegreenthumb wrote:
Does anyone know what this radio is? It's listed in the auction as a "Princeton chairside", but I wonder if it's missing legs?

Anyone have more details? A tube lineup? A manufacturer? A sales ad? Just seen one before to confirm if it's straight?

https://www.auctionzip.com/auction-lot/ ... 5DF4784978



If I am not mistaken, I once owned that radio but do not remember who I sold it too.

It is correct as is and is not missing legs.

Will dig through my old photos to see if I can find it.

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 Post subject: Re: Probably the rarest Sparton mirror radio at auction
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I've had one before, its all there.
There is one pictured in the book "A Flick of the Switch" as a "Globe Chairside" but mine had the Princeton name on it, as did an empty cabinet I saw at an antique shop.
I never figured out who made it.

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 Post subject: Re: Probably the rarest Sparton mirror radio at auction
PostPosted: Mar Mon 01, 2021 1:49 am 
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I've had one before, its all there.
There is one pictured in the book "A Flick of the Switch" as a "Globe Chairside" but mine had the Princeton name on it, as did an empty cabinet I saw at an antique shop.
I never figured out who made it.

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That was it. Mine was a Globe too.

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