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 Post subject: Silver Marshall Mfg 4802 console
PostPosted: Jul Tue 05, 2016 10:59 pm 
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I looked at this today and wasn't that impressed with the cabinet. The front is ok, but the sides are real cheap plain veneer covered with dark toner. The front panel is kind of boring plain walnut. The pilasters are nice. The dealer was firm at $128. The chassis has the big sheet metal cover that resembles the McMurdo-Silver cover. I'm sure this was made by TCA. The condition was excellent- just a touch up here and there needed. Looks like it has all the original knobs.
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 Post subject: Re: Silver Marshall Mfg 4802 console
PostPosted: Jul Tue 05, 2016 11:16 pm 
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Quality or not it would be so cool to get that to set with my Zenith 410 :D

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PostPosted: Jul Tue 05, 2016 11:38 pm 
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Road trip Steve? :D :D

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 Post subject: Re: Silver Marshall Mfg 4802 console
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I don't know, driving out only to find its gone would be frustrating.

They look so similar.

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Hey Steve, Have AOR buy it for you and send him the the cash.
Then its road trip time. :D :wink:

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Is the tuning indicator a meter or a neon tube on that set?

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 Post subject: Re: Silver Marshall Mfg 4802 console
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If I had realized Steve wanted it at that price +tax, I would have bought it. I still can. :)
Yes, it has the neon tube.

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 Post subject: Re: Silver Marshall Mfg 4802 console
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Yes, I would be willing to spend the $128 +tax for it if it is all there and original and has a good original finish, which it seems to have.
The problem is, I'm not sure when I would be able to make the long trip. Perhaps in the Fall.

I know these cabinets are cheaper than Zeniths, but I wonder if it was the same cabinet maker who made them.

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 Post subject: Re: Silver Marshall Mfg 4802 console
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OK. Safely home now. Back view pics.


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 Post subject: Re: Silver Marshall Mfg 4802 console
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Thanks for the pic! It has a chassis cover just as Zenith used. More Zenithesque features.

I see TCA on the label, so you are correct on who made it. Another Chicago manufacturer.

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That SM is a great set!! It'll go well in a Zenith collection. Congrats!!
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this is now nestled into my car ready for the trip home. but first ill spend some time in Denver with a couple friends.

Thanks AOR!!

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azenithnut wrote:
this is now nestled into my car ready for the trip home. but first ill spend some time in Denver with a couple friends.

Thanks AOR!!

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It was nice seeing you. Have a safe trip home.

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Its home. Now to sleep.

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 Post subject: Re: Silver Marshall Mfg 4802 console
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That and your Zenith 410 are so similar, it's almost maddening.

I mean, you look at them side-by-side, and they're almost exactly the same, yet they are also different in every detail.

Were the two cabinets made by the same cabinet company? Do you know the story here, Steve?

I really like the hexagonal bun feet on the Silver-Marshall.

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 Post subject: Re: Silver Marshall Mfg 4802 console
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Congratulations! Please post on the chassis restoration.

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 Post subject: Re: Silver Marshall Mfg 4802 console
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Rodney, I honestly don't know the story behind the cabinets. Yes, they are so similar, but different! I will look them over carefully looking for cabinet maker marks and see if there are any clues.
The cabinet of the Silver Marshall is slightly smaller than the Zenith. Especially in depth.

The chassis is clearly a TCA Clarion model 480. No doubt about that. Another thread of that tangled up Silver Marshall mess...

A few more pics of the chassis. I discovered a saddening issue.... it appears the rotor plates of the variable cap are held in place with pot metal... and its gone to pot... This is going to make restoration fun. :|

I would not have expected that on a 1933/34 radio.

Stephen, Thank you! I certainly will... as I figure out what to do with that variable cap...

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Yikes!! Definitely made on the cheap.
Good luck Steve! If anyone can figure out what to do with the Variable cap, you are one of them!
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It appears the drive and dial could be transferred to a different variable capacitor gang. Is that correct? Does the parts list indicate the capacitance range of each section (all the same)?

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 Post subject: Re: Silver Marshall Mfg 4802 console
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Stephen, The schematic only shows "G-1401 Gang Condenser..... $5.00"
I may be able to find a substitute. Though, I have an idea of repairing it, though I don't know if tit will be successful.

Joe, Thanks! I will try.

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