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 Post subject: Re: Estes Auction 9/26
PostPosted: Sep Fri 25, 2020 2:28 pm 
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I can't stop looking at that Scott Allwave 23. Someone around OH will be a very lucky person tomorrow.

I'm wondering if anyone can explain why Fada radios go for so much. They are very nice and all, but there's obviously something I'm missing since they all pretty much go for $500+. Are they particularly great radios or were they the first to do some technology? Not trying to criticize the price, just honestly trying to find out what the deal is.


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 Post subject: Re: Estes Auction 9/26
PostPosted: Sep Fri 25, 2020 4:18 pm 
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breadtimesamillion wrote:
I'm wondering if anyone can explain why Fada radios go for so much. They are very nice and all, but there's obviously something I'm missing since they all pretty much go for $500+. Are they particularly great radios or were they the first to do some technology? Not trying to criticize the price, just honestly trying to find out what the deal is.

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 Post subject: Re: Estes Auction 9/26
PostPosted: Sep Fri 25, 2020 9:07 pm 
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breadtimesamillion wrote:
I can't stop looking at that Scott Allwave 23. Someone around OH will be a very lucky person tomorrow.


Cabinet looks refinished. That, alone, would diminish my enthusiasm to bid top dollar on it.

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 Post subject: Re: Estes Auction 9/26
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I agree the cabinet was very likely refinished, but at least in the photos it looks like they did a great job.

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 Post subject: Re: Estes Auction 9/26
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The refinisher did a clean job, I'll say that much, but the finish lacks (as it usually does) that rich reddish brown tone that always gives an antique radio that factory finish look.

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 Post subject: Re: Estes Auction 9/26
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the type L went for $13,200

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I thought it would be the high bid of the auction, but when I saw the two tabletop jukeboxes go for $7800, I thought maybe it wouldn't top them.

Boy was I wrong about that! Holy smokes!

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 Post subject: Re: Estes Auction 9/26
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Well it is certainly good to see the Leutz Model L's are holding their value. In fact this set brought almost twice what it did two years ago at Morphy's.
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Two years ago it sold for $6,500 plus fees.
https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/63789516_leutz-model-l-2-piece-superheterodyne-receiver-1922

Today the same set garnered $13,200 plus fees.
https://www.auctionzip.com/auction-lot/__D234432B3E


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 Post subject: Re: Estes Auction 9/26
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More like two bidders lost their minds on the Model L, bidding the price up beyond all reason. :shock:
$15,180 with fees, auction bidding insanity.

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 Post subject: Re: Estes Auction 9/26
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I was just happy to see that they are back in business. They took efforts to promote social distancing, though a couple of bidders chose to ditch masks which was a bit troubling.

If you have a problem with a bid you should interject immediately..they are willing to work it out.

At any auction it can be frustrating to compete with the ebay middle-men, and there were 2-3 there today.
It was great to see the Supers up close.

Also interesting how the Grebe set prices have come down significantly in the past 15 yrs. There were many there today.

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and Federals... several there today

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 Post subject: Re: Estes Auction 9/26
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The bad economy has been hurting prices on a lot of radios besides the Grebe's. Selling them on Ebay would have netted the buyers more, much more in some cases.

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 Post subject: Re: Estes Auction 9/26
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The sets that I was watching had good selling prices. Pleased to see that there is a still a strong market.


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 Post subject: Re: Estes Auction 9/26
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Anybody want to explain the $900 Grebe variometer (lot# 168)?

That was the one that really left me scratching my head. Seems like it must be part of something else that's worth a lot more money, but what?

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 Post subject: Re: Estes Auction 9/26
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Anybody want to explain the $900 Grebe variometer (lot# 168)?

That was the one that really left me scratching my head. Seems like it must be part of something else that's worth a lot more money, but what?



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 Post subject: Re: Estes Auction 9/26
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Just got off the phone with Cledis Estes. Interesting story about the Leutz model L that sold at today's auction. He confirmed that it is the same one that sold at the Morphy's auction two years ago. The buyer got it back then for $6500 because of a mistake. The floor thought the auction was over, but an online bidder was still bidding. The floor buyer got it. The buyer died recently in his sleep from an aneurysm and the winner of todays auction was the one who was bidding online two years ago!

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Scarce piece, with a very early clutch knob.

Thanks Grant. It often strikes me as odd that there are these little niches of the hobby that I still know nothing about!

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 Post subject: Re: Estes Auction 9/26
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I'm curious how the online bidding works. As a spectator I can understand online/phone bids for exceptional pieces such as the Wurlitzer or Leutz. However, why would someone want to bid online for a brown bakelite radio?

Online bidders face even more risks than someone bidding from the gallery (i.e. no warranty that a radio even has all of it's parts). For example, the two Vibroplex bugs went for crazy prices to online bidders, and they were not in very good condition. I inspected those closely looking for a candidate to purchase and practice CW on. I dropped out of both at around $90. Later I found online that finer examples of the Standard and Presentation models can be had for the prices paid today.

Additionally, online bidders seemed to post high starting bids. With no bids, the auctioneer reduces asking price to some floor - in many cases today $10 - and some online starting bids seemed like very high floors.

Anyway, online bidding seemed wonky, and definitely took the energy out of the auction, slowed the exciting cadence to almost a standstill. In some cases the auctioneer gave a lot of time to those bidders of general merchandise. Not sure if the wonkiness was the process (there was a staff-member intermediary) or bidders themselves. A Wulitzer? --sure, take all day.

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 Post subject: Re: Estes Auction 9/26
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Clevis told me they had a few problems today some newer people handling the online bids, it wasn't the bidders. There are many reasons to bid online, the obvious ones are distance and the virus. When bidding gets high on a item, floor and online bidders start taking longer to make the next bid as they think it over. You are correct that floor bidders do have an advantage of being there and seeing everything in person. As an online bidder, I ask for more photos and information for anything I'm interested in and they provided both to me which narrowed the advantage of being there.

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 Post subject: Re: Estes Auction 9/26
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Anybody want to explain the $900 Grebe variometer (lot# 168)?

That was the one that really left me scratching my head. Seems like it must be part of something else that's worth a lot more money, but what?


I was with John when he bought it for 50 cents many years ago.


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