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arianskre
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Interested in LowFER

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Has anyone played around in the 1750 meter band? I discovered it not too long ago and it peaked my interest. I would like to know if this is something worth getting invested in or should I get my radio kicks elsewhere? :lol:
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arianskre wrote:I discovered it not too long ago and it peaked my interest.
Sorry can’t offer any insight into the Lowfer ham band, but I’ll be the grammar nazi: piqued, not peaked.
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Stevebyan, the grammar correction is appreciated! I did not know it’s spelled piqued. Well heck, I learned something so far :D
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arianskre
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So far I’ve only read information regarding FCC regulations in the US. What about Canada? I checked the frequency allocation chart provided by Industry Canada and all it says is “160KCs-190KCs FIXED”. I don’t think I want to get on Industry Canadas bad side by sending some code at a forestry service or something like that.
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Band allocations for Canada, including Low Freq. bands:

https://www.rac.ca/rac-0-30-mhz-band-plan/

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Please note that 136 KHz and 160-190 KHz are two different bands with radically different regulations. I'm only familiar with US regulations but I think something similar pertains to Canada. On 160-190 you need no license, but are limited to 1 watt transmitter input power and a 50 foot antenna. On 136 KHz, licensed hams (only) can run 1 watt ERP. That's a huge difference because of the low efficiency of amateur antennas at longwave.
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A few years back I heard a beacon on my Lowfer radio. I tracked it down to an aviation beacon not far from the Austin airport. I was surprised that they still use that technology. The antenna was a wire suspended between two masts more than 100 feet apart.
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Haven't listened in a while, but Low Freq. MCW (modulated Morse Code) beacons were pretty standard. NDB = non-directional beacon


https://www.dxinfocentre.com/ndb.htm

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Sorry can’t offer any insight into the Lowfer ham band, but I’ll be the grammar nazi: piqued, not peaked.
I was tempted to make the same comment. But I exercised self-restraint...then I saw stevebyan's reply and decided to pile on. :D
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Rich, W3HWJ wrote:Haven't listened in a while, but Low Freq. MCW (modulated Morse Code) beacons were pretty standard. NDB = non-directional beacon


https://www.dxinfocentre.com/ndb.htm

Rich
They've been shutting them down over the past few years, but I just checked, and the local ones here are still on the air.

Other things you can listen to if you go a lot lower in frequency is the VLF stuff such as WWVB at 60 kHz, and several US Navy stations at around 20kHz. I built a VLF up-converter for my SW radio, and a VLF loop antenna that works great at picking up these signals.
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Doesn’t VLF use mostly earth-mode?
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Is "earth mode" another name for ground wave?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_wave

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arianskre
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Earth-mode is an archaic term for a ground dipole, my apologies. I’m also wrong in this case! ELF uses ground dipoles, VLF doesn’t.
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