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 Post subject: What Do I Have?
PostPosted: Aug Thu 08, 2019 4:29 am 
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Ok, I scored a pretty sweet deal on this record player/radio combo. The Realistic 44 plays vinyl in all sizes and speeds like a brand new player though the needle is a touch old (I like the old crackle so changing the needle isn’t essential). The radio is tube and plays AM/FM as clear as day. When those tubes warm up it sounds better than any solid state radio I’ve ever had. The only thing I can’t find out is what the heck it actually is. Google has so far proved fruitless in my hunt, when I type Craftsmen into the search bar it only searches for the Sears brand Craftsman. I also have a picture of the Calcraft tag on it as well. My guess would be that it’s 60s or 70s. If anyone knows the exact make/model or even has a picture of a catalog for it, that would be greatly appreciated. And info really.

Thank you all for the time.


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 Post subject: Re: What Do I Have?
PostPosted: Aug Thu 08, 2019 10:33 am 
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Didn't see phono EQ selectors much beyond 1960 and didn't see tubes much beyond 1970.

Can estimate overall quality and power by output tubes and transformer size.

I'd change the needle unless you really don't care what happens to your vinyl.

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 Post subject: Re: What Do I Have?
PostPosted: Aug Thu 08, 2019 12:09 pm 
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It's a Craftsmen 801 - Sams rarely published any data for them, as production was not in high enough numbers.

https://www.samswebsite.com/en/photofac ... h&s=Search

HiFi Engine doesn't list your model:

https://www.hifiengine.com/manual_libra ... smen.shtml

Rare little bird, it seems. Upper end stuff in the 50s.


EDIT: I'd open it up and see if the Craftemen Receiver or Amp chassis has a different model number. Me suspects Calcraft assembled the changer and Craftsmen receiver/amp combo and gave it their model number of 801.....some innards pix, of course, would help too...

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 Post subject: Re: What Do I Have?
PostPosted: Aug Thu 08, 2019 1:40 pm 
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HiFi Magazine from the 50s has a bunch of Craftsment ads - you can possibly match your unit to one in an ad....

https://americanradiohistory.com/hd2/ID ... r_page=100

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 Post subject: Re: What Do I Have?
PostPosted: Aug Fri 09, 2019 12:40 pm 
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Some/most/all of those Calcraft used Harmon Kardon chassis and Jensen speakers. Take the back off and check it out. High end unit, worth fixing up.

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 Post subject: Re: What Do I Have?
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As a side note, probably OT, sorry, those knobs appear to be the same ones that Allied Radio, Chicago used on their late 50s Knight-Kit amplifiers.

Just FYI, for what it's worth :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: What Do I Have?
PostPosted: Aug Fri 09, 2019 10:11 pm 
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Don Cavey wrote:
As a side note, probably OT, sorry, those knobs appear to be the same ones that Allied Radio, Chicago used on their late 50s Knight-Kit amplifiers.

Just FYI, for what it's worth :lol:


Rogan knobs.....we sold them to local manufacturers in the 80s. One made PA(1MC/5MC) equipment for the Navy, along with systems for local shipyards. They'd order the knobs by the 100s, and every single one was wrapped in paper. 8 cubic foot shipping box with a couple hundred Rogan knobs. One guy I worked with used to clip out pictures of stuff that used the same knobs, as a sort of backdrop to the static, 8 or 9-knob display we had. Webcor was one brand I remember. We stocked Rogan's mil and concentric stuff, but had to order the consumer stuff. They were cheaper than Raytheon and EHC on their MIL stuff.

They don't make them anymore..... :cry: https://www.rogancorp.com/

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 Post subject: Re: What Do I Have?
PostPosted: Aug Fri 09, 2019 10:19 pm 
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Let's see a picture of the rear! It would be nice to see what kind of power amp it has.

As for the stylus, it would be better for your records if you replaced it.

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 Post subject: Re: What Do I Have?
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Also just a suggestion, you can take it or leave it, I would dump that mid 70's BSR changer and find a nice Voice of Music or Garrard from that time frame. Give it a more authentic feel.


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 Post subject: Re: What Do I Have?
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Artcurus wrote:
Also just a suggestion, you can take it or leave it, I would dump that mid 70's BSR changer and find a nice Voice of Music or Garrard from that time frame. Give it a more authentic feel.

Almost all of those Calcraft units had Garrard changers so if it's a BSR it's might have been replaced.

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 Post subject: Re: What Do I Have?
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Findm-Keepm wrote:
Don Cavey wrote:
As a side note, probably OT, sorry, those knobs appear to be the same ones that Allied Radio, Chicago used on their late 50s Knight-Kit amplifiers.

Just FYI, for what it's worth :lol:


Rogan knobs.....we sold them to local manufacturers in the 80s. One made PA(1MC/5MC) equipment for the Navy, along with systems for local shipyards. They'd order the knobs by the 100s, and every single one was wrapped in paper. 8 cubic foot shipping box with a couple hundred Rogan knobs. One guy I worked with used to clip out pictures of stuff that used the same knobs, as a sort of backdrop to the static, 8 or 9-knob display we had. Webcor was one brand I remember. We stocked Rogan's mil and concentric stuff, but had to order the consumer stuff. They were cheaper than Raytheon and EHC on their MIL stuff.

They don't make them anymore..... :cry: https://www.rogancorp.com/


Thanks Brian, I recognized those knobs but surely didn't know their background. Allied must have ordered car loads of them. Some even had "Volume" or "Bass" inscribed on them. They got that white waxy stuff on them just like screwdriver handles. But with a little effort, they clean up nicely.

"We will return you to your regularly scheduled programming"... (Sorry to derail this thread) ;)

Yes, more pictures would be nice.

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 Post subject: Re: What Do I Have?
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Don Cavey wrote:
They got that white waxy stuff on them just like screwdriver handles. But with a little effort, they clean up nicely.

That's plasticizer and it will go away using a hot hair dryer. The couplers on American Flyer trains have the same problem and a few seconds with a hair dryer cleans them right up.

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