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 Post subject: Search question
PostPosted: Jan Tue 14, 2020 8:43 pm 
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While using the search function here I searched for Magnavox CR-206 and it returned no matches because the word CR-206 is not contained in any post.

I then searched Magnavox and saw CR-206

Is that just a bug or does the - muck it up?


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 Post subject: Re: Search question
PostPosted: Jan Tue 14, 2020 9:45 pm 
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Regarding the search page here at arf
Use the google site search - top box only.
The other search features on that page do not work correctly!

The top box uses/employs the google search engine to search within these forums.
Use inverted commas for exact phrase.
example: "one tube radios"
results→ https://www.google.com/search?q=%22one+ ... radios.com

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Chronological search for heathkit one year back only! Past year... Sorted by date
http://www.google.com/search?q=site:antiqueradios.com+heathkit&tbo=1&tbs=qdr:y,sbd:1

Chronological search for heathkit indefinite time period. Sorted by date
http://www.google.com/search?q=site:antiqueradios.com+heathkit&tbo=1&tbs=qdr:2y,sbd:1

Chronological search for heathkit one month back. Past month... Sorted by date
http://www.google.com/search?q=site:antiqueradios.com+heathkit&tbo=1&tbs=qdr:m,sbd:1


For exact phrase, use quotation marks, e.g. "one transistor" Indefinite time period
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 Post subject: Re: Search question
PostPosted: Jan Wed 15, 2020 12:37 am 
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The ARF search function is basically worthless. Use the Google one.

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 Post subject: Re: Search question
PostPosted: Jan Wed 15, 2020 12:46 am 
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i use google and search with site:www.antiqueradios.com

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 Post subject: Re: Search question
PostPosted: Jan Wed 15, 2020 1:14 am 
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azenithnut wrote:
i use google and search with site:www.antiqueradios.com

-Steve


Using the google search at the top of the page does the same thing, and has the added bonus of not having to type all that in.

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 Post subject: Re: Search question
PostPosted: Jan Wed 15, 2020 1:31 am 
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For me the forum search usually does ok depending on what I search for.

Perhaps there's an issue with it that needs to be fixed.


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 Post subject: Re: Search question
PostPosted: Jan Wed 15, 2020 2:33 am 
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The search link in the gray bar at the top of the page offers two options. The first one is a Google Site Search option. Type what you are looking for there and Google will use it's algorithms to present you with appropriate results. This is usually the best choice for more generic searches, like Philco 90.

Immediately below that is a basic database search option. All this does is match up your search terms with the contents of the database tables. Search terms must match exactly and be at least three characters long, so searching for Philco 90 would ignore the 90 part and just return results with Philco in them. Despite these limitations, this can sometimes be a better way to find something if you know specifics about what you are looking for. You can search a single forum section and just search within posts of a specific person. I did this just a couple of days ago. A member has the habit of posting a particular insensitive thing, and I could look for all the times they had done this in the past by using forum, member name, key words for the search. However, this search is usually not the best choice to find things.


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 Post subject: Re: Search question
PostPosted: Jan Wed 15, 2020 2:45 am 
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So would CR-192 get ignored by using the lower forum search function?

I often prefer that search as it lets me easily get exactly what I want for the most part without having to type in anything extra or wade through several google pages.


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 Post subject: Re: Search question
PostPosted: Jan Wed 15, 2020 3:13 am 
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Simple is better with any search to start, try CR-206 only.

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 Post subject: Re: Search question
PostPosted: Jan Wed 15, 2020 3:43 am 
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EICOKnight wrote:
azenithnut wrote:
i use google and search with site:www.antiqueradios.com

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Using the google search at the top of the page does the same thing, and has the added bonus of not having to type all that in.



Ahh, so it does!
And all this time I've been typing it out manually.

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 Post subject: Re: Search question
PostPosted: Jan Wed 15, 2020 4:01 am 
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No posts were found because the word cr-206 is not contained in any post.

Think I see the problem.

I typed in CR-206 and as seen it changed to lower case.

The site search must be case sensitive.

EDIT:

Must not be it as I just searched for magnavox and got results with Magnavox.

Now I did a search for magnavox using my name and got this topic which has CR-206 in it.

I don't seem to remember the search being that bad until maybe 2-3 years ago.


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 Post subject: Re: Search question
PostPosted: Jan Wed 15, 2020 4:21 am 
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Search query
Search for keywords:
+CR +206

445 matches...
search.php?keywords=%2BCR+%2B206&terms=all&author=&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search

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Search query
Search for keywords:
+Magnavox +CR +206


31 matches...
search.php?keywords=%2BMagnavox+%2BCR+%2B206&terms=all&author=&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search

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 Post subject: Re: Search question
PostPosted: Jan Wed 15, 2020 4:34 am 
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Odd how it found them that way but not by typing CR-206

Maybe the - is the issue.


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 Post subject: Re: Search question
PostPosted: Jan Wed 15, 2020 4:35 am 
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Search for keywords:
Place + in front of a word which must be found and - in front of a word which must not be found. Put a list of words separated by | into brackets if only one of the words must be found. Use * as a wildcard for partial matches.

:) Greg.


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 Post subject: Re: Search question
PostPosted: Jan Wed 15, 2020 10:45 pm 
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On the non-google search engine, I tried it simply as:

Magnavox cr 206


And was able to see results for the Magnavox CR-206.

Maybe the dash is seen as a minus sign?

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 Post subject: Re: Search question
PostPosted: Jan Thu 16, 2020 1:52 pm 
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Think you may have hit upon something.

I tried Magnavox cr 206 using the forum search function and it seems to work properly.


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 Post subject: Re: Search question
PostPosted: Jan Thu 16, 2020 2:34 pm 
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How does this relate to the search bar at the bottom of each forum? Is that the same as the database search mentioned but limited just to the forum you are currently reading?

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 Post subject: Re: Search question
PostPosted: Jan Thu 16, 2020 2:36 pm 
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That searches for things in the current page.


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 Post subject: Re: Search question
PostPosted: Jan Thu 16, 2020 2:39 pm 
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Thanks Alan, I thought so, but I was also asking if it's the google engine or the site engine rules that are applied using that search box.

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