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 Post subject: Re: November 2020 Finds & Losses****
PostPosted: Nov Wed 18, 2020 11:36 pm 
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Kirk - - those 12AX7's could be the "mother lode". If they are long plate square-D getter, you could pay your Visa bill for several months . . . 8)

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Sorry I dont speak tube language...Yet... :wink:
D getter and long plate I understand.. whats the square?


The "D" is actually a squared element in Aduiophile speak. It's not a "curved" D - - - as in this type style. I've sold my 12AX7 tubes for insane money. I use the short plate garden variety in my own audio equipment - - - danged if I can tell the difference. But what do I know?

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 Post subject: Re: November 2020 Finds & Losses****
PostPosted: Nov Fri 20, 2020 9:26 pm 
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I managed to pick up a 1935/36 Canadian Rogers 10-10 radio. This was supposed to be one step down from the 10-12 (with the clock) and the 10-120 (without the clock). It has 10 tubes instead of 12, and it still has a separate power supply. Only issue seems to be a small chip out of the top on the back left.
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 Post subject: Re: November 2020 Finds & Losses****
PostPosted: Nov Fri 20, 2020 9:38 pm 
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I managed to pick up a 1935/36 Canadian Rogers 10-10 radio. This was supposed to be one step down from the 10-12 (with the clock) and the 10-120 (without the clock). It has 10 tubes instead of 12, and it still has a separate power supply. Only issue seems to be a small chip out of the top on the back left.
Tony

I like it.

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 Post subject: Re: November 2020 Finds & Losses****
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I owned and sold Zenith Transoceanics, but never really took much of liking to them. I like this typical smaller luggage-style battery-only portable better. Not only is this one almost mint, but it's the rarer early version, model 4K400M, without the removable loop antenna that can attach from the front, model 5G401. The top and inside lid decal only says "Zenith" on this model and not at all worn. The chassis is like new too with all the tall Zenith etched tubes and 1947 dated Eveready batteries still in the set.
These came in brown, black, and grey luggage cloth, and tan rawhide.


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 Post subject: Re: November 2020 Finds & Losses****
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Sweet Fancy Moses! those Canadian radios are beautiful! :D

Joe, congratulations on another battery portable :D

Very nice Zenith!

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 Post subject: Re: November 2020 Finds & Losses****
PostPosted: Nov Fri 20, 2020 11:49 pm 
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Sweet Fancy Moses! those Canadian radios are beautiful! :D

Joe, congratulations on another battery portable :D

Very nice Zenith!

-Steve

Thanks Steve. I have close to 20 now! :shock: The extraordinary thing with this portable is both the inside lid and top decal's are totally intact. This one was very well cared for. Likely an older owner who didn't take it outside. I really like the look of this early version without those big antenna inputs to the right of the dial.


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I owned and sold Zenith Transoceanics, but never really took much of liking to them. I like this typical smaller luggage-style battery-only portable better. Not only is this one almost mint, but it's the rarer early version, model 4K400M, without the removable loop antenna that can attach from the front, model 5G401. The top and inside lid decal only says "Zenith" on this model and not at all worn. The chassis is like new too with all the tall Zenith etched tubes and 1947 dated Eveready batteries still in the set.
These came in brown, black, and grey luggage cloth, and tan rawhide.


Very nice understated radio. Amazing condition too. Question - - - how do these perform? Do you use a battery eliminator? I've only restored mains powered radios, and was wondering how the battery sets react to all the RF noise in the air and over the power lines. From my experience, the newer radios with ferrite antennas suck noise out of seemingly nowhere. . . .

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 Post subject: Re: November 2020 Finds & Losses****
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SparkyDan wrote:
decojoe67 wrote:
I owned and sold Zenith Transoceanics, but never really took much of liking to them. I like this typical smaller luggage-style battery-only portable better. Not only is this one almost mint, but it's the rarer early version, model 4K400M, without the removable loop antenna that can attach from the front, model 5G401. The top and inside lid decal only says "Zenith" on this model and not at all worn. The chassis is like new too with all the tall Zenith etched tubes and 1947 dated Eveready batteries still in the set.
These came in brown, black, and grey luggage cloth, and tan rawhide.


Very nice understated radio. Amazing condition too. Question - - - how do these perform? Do you use a battery eliminator? I've only restored mains powered radios, and was wondering how the battery sets react to all the RF noise in the air and over the power lines. From my experience, the newer radios with ferrite antennas suck noise out of seemingly nowhere. . . .

Dan

Thank you. These '39-'41 era luggage-style battery portables play surprisingly well. Many sound every bit as good as a 5-6 tube table radio. I like that they're battery only because you don't get AC line noise. Using an eliminator defeats that. It's also fun to have the radio self contained as it was meant to be. It's easy to hook-up modern batteries to them, although you have to be very careful identifying the A and B battery wires. It's actually pretty easy. The one downfall with these is that the low-drain tubes are unforgiving. One wrong move and all the tubes blow in a split second. I personally love these sets. They're built like tanks and have a nice mellow tone with the totally enclosed cabinet.


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 Post subject: Re: November 2020 Finds & Losses****
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Welcome aboard Jody - let's see that record changer, that unit looks too small for a platter.


sergneri, here is the picture of the record changer. The console itself is approximately 17 in square by 13.5 deep. The changer measures 13.5 by 13, but it is in rough shape. I have been thinking of replacing it and retro fitting a more modern turntable.


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 Post subject: Re: November 2020 Finds & Losses****
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Very nice Rogers, Tony! I am so jealous of those fine Canadian sets.

My finds for today-a Philco 39-7 chairside. The finish needs a little love, and it needs speaker repair and a new grille cloth.
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Another Zenith Allegro-I know I just got one, but this one came with the microphone, instruction manual, and....
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And a cute little Gem Fan-with something different-an all Bakelite body!
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 Post subject: Re: November 2020 Finds & Losses****
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And a cute little Gem Fan-with something different-an all Bakelite body!
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Dan Fox[/quote]

Excellent fan, and the bakelite looks great. Definitely a keeper, and worth putting some effort into. I'm not a fan collector, but that's the first of it's kind I've seen. Some guys have all the luck . . . .

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 Post subject: Re: November 2020 Finds & Losses****
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Picked up this Midwest console today. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong. The cabinet is for BB-18 and the 11 tube chassis is a 11-36. Still looks good, except that someone applied a clear coat that has runs in it.


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 Post subject: Re: November 2020 Finds & Losses****
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Bakelite fan? Its a miracle its not broken!

Are those Allegro 2000 speakers?
If so, you got the exact system my mother bought in 1979.

I was blown away at the sound quality of that system!

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P.S. Wow, that is a beautiful Midwest! :D

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 Post subject: Re: November 2020 Finds & Losses****
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Bakelite fan? Its a miracle its not broken!

Are those Allegro 2000 speakers?


They are Allegro 3000's. Is that better? Maybe they go all the way to 11?
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 Post subject: Re: November 2020 Finds & Losses****
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Yes, they are one louder! :D
a 10" woofer rather than an 8"

I have a pair of the newer style Allegro 3000 speakers (removable grill) with my Zenith MC7040 receiver.

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 Post subject: Re: November 2020 Finds & Losses****
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A cute little Gem Fan-with something different-an all Bakelite body!
That's just amazing! It looks brand new, and I'm with Steve: How did it not get broken???


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Picked up this Midwest console today. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong. The cabinet is for BB-18 and the 11 tube chassis is a 11-36.
Midwest sold radio chassis separate from cabinets, and there were typically 2 or 3 chassis that could fit in a group of 2 to 4 cabinets. The cabinet model is indicated by the letter prefix, while the chassis model is indicated by the tube count. So a model BB cabinet with an 11-36 chassis would be labeled with the composite model number "BB-11". Your radio is a Midwest BB-11.

Very nice finds!

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Weather was cool this morning. so I decided to make a run out to the local Flee market Picked this up for $1.00. A little cleaning a it powered right up. Put in the local N.O.A.A. weather channel crystal and it picks it up with just the whip.


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Today I picked up an unusual thing... A homebrew television! It was assembled by the seller's grandfather.

A pleasant surprise was that it appears to receive Channel 1. I've been wanting a Channel 1 TV in my collection, and now I have one.

It's got a 10-inch tube, and appears to have 29 tubes on the chassis. I'll post more of the story and details in the Antique Television forum.


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Was helping my Dad clean the garage, and stumbled upon his old Heathkit Class A amp, FM tuner, and the below cache of tubes. I tested them all and separated out the four bad ones. Several NOS 12AX7s, a pair of 6L6s, and a 6SN7 that I'll keep as a spare for my Eico 221 VTVM.


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I picked up this unknown FADA with a Model RW Flash-O-Graph chassis, and was quickly strong armed out of it, :wink: so it's a find AND a loss... :lol: .


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