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 Post subject: Re: How many of you could afford to re-buy your houses?
PostPosted: Jul Thu 12, 2018 8:27 pm 
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Seattle is not the nice town it once was.
More than 12,000 people are experiencing homelessness in King County
https://seattle.curbed.com/2018/6/1/174 ... ing-county

Seattleā€™s homeless population went up 44% in the last two years
https://q13fox.com/2017/12/06/seattles- ... two-years/

The overall crime rate in Seattle is 115% higher than the national average.
https://www.areavibes.com/seattle-wa/crime/

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It seems that many things have changed in about the last 30 years, but in Belgium, France
and Germany it is more heavy.
I tried your second link and that was the answer, any idea why?

Sorry, this content is not available in your region. :?:

What a luck that ARF is available in my region! :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: How many of you could afford to re-buy your houses?
PostPosted: Jul Thu 12, 2018 9:17 pm 
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Yes, I think so, the view on the Pacific and the clean fresh air is fantastic.
But SF has no winter, no snow, it will be too hot for me.


SF the city is relatively cool by US standards, especially in the summer. Its usually in the 60's and lower 70's and in the winter gets down to the 50's. The whole area is full of what we call " Micro-climates". For example where I live, which is across the bay where on a clear day I can actually see San Francisco it can get up into the 90's. Go about 15 miles inland and it can get VERY hot.

The advantage to the area is that within 2-3 hours of driving you can go to the mountains, the beach, the plains, or any number of drastically different geological climate zones.

Anyway if you ever come out this way let me know.


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 Post subject: Re: How many of you could afford to re-buy your houses?
PostPosted: Jul Thu 12, 2018 9:52 pm 
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easyrider8 wrote:
Seattle is not the nice town it once was.
More than 12,000 people are experiencing homelessness in King County
https://seattle.curbed.com/2018/6/1/174 ... ing-county

Seattleā€™s homeless population went up 44% in the last two years
https://q13fox.com/2017/12/06/seattles- ... two-years/

The overall crime rate in Seattle is 115% higher than the national average.
https://www.areavibes.com/seattle-wa/crime/

Dave

Why do you suppose this is?

If the economy is booming can't these people find jobs and rent?
Is there any affordable housing sections available?
Are there any vagrancy laws?
Is the general public being so soft hearted that there are no restrictions on anyone and so, and if the climate allows for comfortable outdoor sleeping and the laws don't help discourage it.. there will be a natural gathering in that area?

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 Post subject: Re: How many of you could afford to re-buy your houses?
PostPosted: Jul Thu 12, 2018 10:08 pm 
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Here is your answer.
http://mynorthwest.com/19550/jason-rant ... y-ranking/?

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 Post subject: Re: How many of you could afford to re-buy your houses?
PostPosted: Jul Thu 12, 2018 10:13 pm 
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But SF has no winter, no snow, it will be too hot for me.

I was stationed in WĆ¼rzburg back in the '60's, with a latitude equivalent to Calgary, Canada, and of course it's about 100 miles south of Dusseldorf, so yeah, higher temperatures and lower humidity than what you are used to. OTOH, your "blood would thin", lol, as you "acclimatized"...Didn't take me that long once I rotated back to the U.S. and came home to SoCal.

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 Post subject: Re: How many of you could afford to re-buy your houses?
PostPosted: Jul Thu 12, 2018 10:30 pm 
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Why do you suppose this is?


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If the economy is booming can't these people find jobs and rent?

... Because a lot of these folks work at minimum wage type jobs and the rate of pay increases in that sector are minimal if any at all. The cost of rent has been escalating faster than those wages rise. So thus why there are more homeless people...

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Is there any affordable housing sections available?


Yeah.... well good luck with that one. The amount of afforable housing set aside is laughably tiny. So the chances of getting into one of those units is slim to none. As in there are actual lotteries.
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Are there any vagrancy laws?

So what do you propose? Put all of the homeless in jail if they break the vagrancy laws? Think about it in terms of how much that would cost over simply leaving those folks alone...

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Is the general public being so soft hearted that there are no restrictions on anyone and so, and if the climate allows for comfortable outdoor sleeping and the laws don't help discourage it.. there will be a natural gathering in that area?


Its more that being kind to other human beings- including those that have fallen on hard times- is a good thing. I fail to see anything wrong with being "soft hearted" which I prefer to having the opposite attitude.


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 Post subject: Re: How many of you could afford to re-buy your houses?
PostPosted: Jul Thu 12, 2018 10:59 pm 
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Its more that being kind to other human beings- including those that have fallen on hard times- is a good thing. I fail to see anything wrong with being "soft hearted" which I prefer to having the opposite attitude.

And how well is that working out Europe?? If you give them food, sleeping bags, tents, medical care, portable toilets and whatever else they need there is no incentive to get a job and be a productive member of society.
Some people will need help at times, others are content with the homeless lifestyle.

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 Post subject: Re: How many of you could afford to re-buy your houses?
PostPosted: Jul Thu 12, 2018 11:11 pm 
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I can only assume the response from the last person who posted, whom I have blocked. Lemme' guess: It fits neatly with the whole narrative of being against the poor. Right? Just curious because I am almost certain that has to be what the response was...


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 Post subject: Re: How many of you could afford to re-buy your houses?
PostPosted: Jul Thu 12, 2018 11:39 pm 
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Pbpix wrote:
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It's really bizarre that women are expected to be "chaste" but men are not.

True. In fact most women nowadays and some even back in the day...hope their future husband has some experience and certainly not a virgin.

Archaic and offensive

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I'm only the messenger.

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 Post subject: Re: How many of you could afford to re-buy your houses?
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We bought our home brand new 20 years ago this month for $341,204. The current value is over $1,000,000. We are debt free and could buy it at that price. Would we? It is in a very low crime area just nine miles straight line from the Pacific ocean and is convenient to drive north, south or east for business. We might. Property taxes would be $10,000 per year, not the $4,000 per year we now pay. If we not working, it is obvious that the same money could buy two houses, one in a nice area of Spain, Portugal or Italy with the same climate and another in some other desirable area.

Perhaps the real question is "would you move to California now?" I doubt I'd now see this as the land of opportunity. I hope California can be saved, but it is may go the way of Venezuela.

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 Post subject: Re: How many of you could afford to re-buy your houses?
PostPosted: Jul Fri 13, 2018 3:52 am 
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glue_ru wrote:
one day these inflated prices will come down, again, and the current owner will get burned.
Our communities really can't support million dollar starter homes. No wonder kids today are
lost and reckless.
My father said almost exactly the same thing when I bought my first house around 1980 for $54,000. He said "wait." House prices HAVE to go back down.


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